Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Easy fix is if the temp is above 380 then you upjet AND check for any air leaks into motor. The high temp represents a lean condition and you have to remedy it. It's not hard to find the problem.


Yeah if it was running, problem not is getting it to turn over. 95% sure its something to do with a ...

Yeah so I heat cycled it like ten times while letting it cool completely between each, then rode it up the street and back. I probably should start putting a trail temp on them after a top end rebuild. Carb is cheap amazon one which I still do wonder what that extra nipple is coming off the engine ...

Won’t even pop with premix added to spark plug hole. Which tells me it’s possibly not getting spark. That said, turning it over with plug held against frame its definitely getting spark.
Do you get a spark with the plug grounded to the head/engine rather than frame?


Yes definitely good ...

Ive got a no start condition and out of ideas on this one. Has fuel, spark, and 145 compression on new top end.

Done the following:
New plug(s)
Added oil to the cylinder after new top end
Replaced crank seals
Replaced carb with new
New cdi & ignition coil for original no spark condition
Fresh gas ...

Excellent thanks, one wire is not connected and meter shows half full when the tank is full. I’m ok with that.

86 has the 3 wire
85 has the 2 wire

Do you just connect the two wires and leave the other disconnected or ground it? If left disconnected does it melt the wires or cause any further electrical issues?

Checked both left and right crank seals today, both were new in 2023 and neither is blown out or leaking.

Pulled the exhaust and some oil ‘did’ come out of that.

Pulled the cylinder and the bore looks nice and smooth
Piston rings are both intact, piston looks good too

I will try and crank it ...

So I started messing with the Spree again that won’t run and it still won’t run again lol.

Has Spark
Has compression
Has fresh fuel
Carb is getting fuel
Petcock is working
Ignition key working
Kill switch working
New cdi
New ignition coil

Even starter fluid doesn’t make it pop

Any ideas what to ...

Any suggestions for a replacement spark plug boot?

1985 Spree

Zip tie method, best thing ever and dish soap using three tire spoons.

I insert tubes into tires first off the rim.
Using zip ties, close the tire down together without pinching the tube. Go entire way around tire with zip ties
Lube up edges of tire with dish soap
Insert the tire valve into hole ...

This thread has a lot of info on starter to bendix compatibility

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =3&t=37956

Next time you take apart the starter, get a close look at the wires on the armature winding just after they loop around the hook and see if any are broken. I’ve noticed this several times on these starters. It is possible to rewind it just takes a little time. If broke it may spin over then hit the ...

‘86 and up had the kickstarter and exact year should be on the frame if you take the leg shield off.

Starters are hard to come by, ebay is your best bet. What makes you think the starter is bad? These starters can also be rebuilt just takes a little time and patience. Don’t really need a working ...

What does the spark plug look like after a long starting attempt?

I installed a china carb on mine a while back. It was still difficult to start but runs fine after it finally starts. Has never started cold using the elec starter. Now it's getting harder to start. Starting fluid no help. When I ...

Yep thats next step if the right side crank seal is intact. I replaced them both in 2022 on this one though so should be good but will check. Left side is definitely good.