84 Spree battery

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:03 am

I need a battery for my 84 spree and i dont know where to start. I got the bike used from a friend without a battery, also the wireing is a mess, I tried useing a car battery and a little fuse started makeing a funny bzzzzzzz noise? then i switched the terminals right away and the cooling fan on the stator started turning counter clockwise but very slowly. Can anyone please help. I am really eager to get this bike going. Do you thing maybe the altenator/starter motor is bad?

Thx in advance for any reply

Kikwear · Post by **Kikwear** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:26 am

Set it on fire.

Sorry for the confusion...I have been drinking...

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:53 pm

No matter how eager you are to get this bike running, download the repair manual from the FAQ link. If you already know the wiring is messed up, check it out first according to the wiring diagrams in the manual.
Just putting juice to it and hearing humming/hissing sounds is NOT the way to get it going. You will burn something up, if you haven't already.
If you consult the manual and don't understand something, then come back and ask questions - you'll be a lot happier......

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:59 pm

thx, I downloaded the manual and the auto bystarter is totally disconected(wires cut) but i do know where they should connect to. I have also come to find that the starter motor is bad so ill have to find that along with a battery. What exactly does the auto bystarter do? Does it help resist the air coming through the carb or help it come through?

I also have seen the kick start mod for the older models, i am thinking of trying that just so i dont have to rely on the battery. http://m.1asphost.com/SpreeRepairing/kick.htm

thx again

Post by **noiseguy** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 9:37 am

If the starter is humming but not turning, check out the starter pinion gear. It's removable and may be stuck. Check starter operation with pinion removed. You are pulling in on the brakes while "starting," right? There's a brake interlock switch. Make sure it's connected and working.

You can use a car battery to play with it, but you need to make sure it's connected properly (polarity.) This is actually a better option than spending $30 on a small battery if the Spree is not economically feasible to rebuild. You'll get more crank time too.

Check out the bystarter for function. It was probably clipped for a reason. Your carb settings are likely off too so that it would start.

Best of luck.

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:18 pm

Thx everyone, I have to say it's the starter motor. It will turn but very slowly. How much should a starter motor run me?

Post by **noiseguy** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 4:03 pm

The starter motor itself turns slowly? Odd. Have you tried disassembling the starter motor? Bad/icky bearings or brushes, I'm guessing. And I assume you already pulled and checked the starter pinion assembly.

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Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:12 pm

The starter can usually be rebuilt. Patience and an understanding of electronics should do it. Especially if just turning slowly. The brushes are probably good, just needs tearing down and cleaned/rebuild.

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:16 pm

thx, im trying to disasemble the bike to get to that little motor, i have somewhat an under standing becuase i have an elecrtic rc car and i replace brushes, cut the com, and clean the motor out often often.

thats my rc car motor. back to the moped. The starter motor is in such a tight space i cant get to one of the bolts it is very fusterating, but im taking my time..

Tippmann98 · Post by **Tippmann98** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 8:36 pm

Personally, i would just take the freaking engine off the bike. It makes the task a lot easier. But, if you are not familiar or used to doing this stuff. I wouldnt try it, if you want instructions, reply back.

SteveO · Post by **SteveO** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:19 pm

I took the whole swingarm off of the bike to get to the starter.

Tippmann98 · Post by **Tippmann98** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:22 am

Haha, did it work out okay? Relember to detach the fuel lines, wiring, and the shock. Then (if you wish) the engine will come off with the pull of the engine bolt.