newbie question about Oil
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cellardoor
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newbie question about Oil
I just bought a used scooter a few days ago (88 Honda Elite LX 50cc) and in my first thread here I learned that the distinctive smell I'm... smelling is due to the fact that I have a 2-stroke engine.
I've never owned a scooter in my life so I'm trying to get some good info.
The guy I bought it from said to refill the oil at a thousand miles, but I was reading some other website that was saying fill the oil whenever you put gas in the tank... ?? So, am I supposed to put oil in it whenever i fill it up? That seems weird.
Also, I read something about using Fuchs Silkolene Scoot 2 oil and that it would pretty much cut down on the smell that I've noticed has started to follow me around. Does anyone have any other good suggestions for brands of oil to buy that would cut down on the smell. I do realize now, that that just might be par-for-the-course with owning a 2-stroke scooter, though.
Thanks!!
I've never owned a scooter in my life so I'm trying to get some good info.
The guy I bought it from said to refill the oil at a thousand miles, but I was reading some other website that was saying fill the oil whenever you put gas in the tank... ?? So, am I supposed to put oil in it whenever i fill it up? That seems weird.
Also, I read something about using Fuchs Silkolene Scoot 2 oil and that it would pretty much cut down on the smell that I've noticed has started to follow me around. Does anyone have any other good suggestions for brands of oil to buy that would cut down on the smell. I do realize now, that that just might be par-for-the-course with owning a 2-stroke scooter, though.
Thanks!!
Re: newbie question about Oil
not sure what smell your smelling but may i suggest that IF it is the smell of the internal combustion process and in this case that of a 2 cycle engine
that you take up sky diving as a means of getting from point a to point b.
nothing there to upset your sensitive sense of smell.dang dude take off the skirt scooter guys(and gals) are a hearty breed.try concentrating on, heck i don't know... maybe NOT getting run over by some grey hair or cell phone texting tenny bopper for starters.welcome to Scooterville.
that you take up sky diving as a means of getting from point a to point b.
nothing there to upset your sensitive sense of smell.dang dude take off the skirt scooter guys(and gals) are a hearty breed.try concentrating on, heck i don't know... maybe NOT getting run over by some grey hair or cell phone texting tenny bopper for starters.welcome to Scooterville.
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Re: newbie question about Oil
honda gn2 is what most of the guys here on the board run, and it will last a long while, so dont worry about the price. i am going to try some motul when my scoot is rebuilt and ported over the winter. just remember, cheap oil fouls plugs way easier, and that sucks.
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Re: newbie question about Oil
you want synthetic 2 stroke injector oil.belray,motul 710,repsol 2t,yamalube 2t,si7 and redline.
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iggysepia100
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Re: newbie question about Oil
Seems to me that our new friend here is not only new to scooters but to anything and everything mechanical; I would advise that it doesn't matter as much what oil you run (as long as it is 2 stroke oil) as never letting that oil tank go empty; the tanks of gas/ tanks of oil ratio differs between models (and I would say between individual scoots as well) so there isn't a rule that anybody can give you as to how often to check your oil. CHECK IT OFTEN! I have never left the house without a spare spark plug or at least a partial bottle of oil. No brainer for us experienced folk, but...A TWO STROKE MOTOR CAN NOT RUN WITHOUT OIL.
And who in their right mind dislikes the smell of a two smoker's puff puff? But I don't want to beat on a new guy.
And who in their right mind dislikes the smell of a two smoker's puff puff? But I don't want to beat on a new guy.
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sorry man i lost it when i saw the part about trying to cover up the smell...And who in their right mind dislikes the smell of a two smoker's puff puff? But I don't want to beat on a new guy.
we are here to help.i do apologize for the outburst.
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Re: newbie question about Oil
Greetings:
A full tank of 2-Stroke oil should last about 8-10 tanks of gas, by my calculations. A little light is supposed to illuminate when the oil level gets low, but I submit there's no substitute for direct inspection. Senders can stick.
A full tank of 2-Stroke oil should last about 8-10 tanks of gas, by my calculations. A little light is supposed to illuminate when the oil level gets low, but I submit there's no substitute for direct inspection. Senders can stick.
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Re: newbie question about Oil
That distinctive smell turns some guys on. Like Wheelman... He likes it better than his wife's perfume.
Some swear by the Honda brand, but do try to stick to a name brand, 2 stroke injector type. Don't run the non-injector type like for chainsaws.
The LX is the precursor to the AF16E series. Less aftermarket but still lots of goodies available. I have an 89LX with 65cc bbk, which is one of our family favorites.
The LX is the precursor to the AF16E series. Less aftermarket but still lots of goodies available. I have an 89LX with 65cc bbk, which is one of our family favorites.
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cellardoor
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Re: newbie question about Oil
Thanks for all the helpful answers!! I'm making a list of this stuff. I'll get a bottle of oil to keep with me at all times.
So, yes I am a GIRL and I'm trying to learn how to do this on my own without the need to take it to the repair shop. I'm not an idiot and tend to like to dive into mechanical things, but I just wanted to start somewhere. I know my questions seem stupid, but I'm just trying to get some info. I'll get use to the smell, im sure.
Thanks again for the help!! I downloaded the service manual to get an idea of what i'm looking at. So, I'm sure that will help a great deal, too.
So, yes I am a GIRL and I'm trying to learn how to do this on my own without the need to take it to the repair shop. I'm not an idiot and tend to like to dive into mechanical things, but I just wanted to start somewhere. I know my questions seem stupid, but I'm just trying to get some info. I'll get use to the smell, im sure.
Thanks again for the help!! I downloaded the service manual to get an idea of what i'm looking at. So, I'm sure that will help a great deal, too.
Re: newbie question about Oil
there is no stupid question. so ask away. we here will answer them all or direct you to an earlier thread that explains your situation. glad to have you on board and in the wonderful world of scooting.!!!
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Greetings:
Cellardoor posted:
That will not be necessary. Only when you're on the scooter will suffice.
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Cellardoor posted:
get a bottle of oil to keep with me at all times.
That will not be necessary. Only when you're on the scooter will suffice.
As long as you have most of 10 fingers, and aren't afraid to get some of them pretty dirty at times, gender is irrelevant. For many of us, excessive testosterone can be an impediment to sound judgement and good tuning outcomes. It's the EFS*.So, yes I am a GIRL and I'm trying to learn how to do this on my own without the need to take it to the repair shop. I'm not an idiot and tend to like to dive into mechanical things, but I just wanted to start somewhere. I know my questions seem stupid, but I'm just trying to get some info.
Here I feel the male gender has an advantage. From my experience, most men are much more tolerant of smells than most women. Anecdotally, in the early 70s the Arctic Cat snowmobile company started coating their exhausts with something that gave their sleds a remarkably different aromatic effect. Even with the same fuel and oil, they just smelled ... Different. I wish I could find out more about that stuff.I'll get use to the smell, im sure.
The manual is the best source for info on how-tos, by far. Just be aware of the occasional typo not caught by the editors. Japanese is hard to translate.Thanks again for the help!! I downloaded the service manual to get an idea of what i'm looking at. So, I'm sure that will help a great deal, too.
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Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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cellardoor
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Re: newbie question about Oil
Haa, awesome! Thanks again.
Has anyone used G-Oil for their 2-stroke engines? I read that its biodegradable, which i think is pretty cool.
http://planetgreen.discovery.com/tech-t ... r-oil.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10162482-54.html
Has anyone used G-Oil for their 2-stroke engines? I read that its biodegradable, which i think is pretty cool.
http://planetgreen.discovery.com/tech-t ... r-oil.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10162482-54.html
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http://www.southernskies.net/page_info/ ... ngine.html
i thought you might get a kick out of this link.
i thought you might get a kick out of this link.
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cellardoor
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Re: newbie question about Oil
Oh very cool!! thanks for that link. I printed that out, too. I'm going to have a nice set of resources to refer to. 
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Interesting. Might be worth looking into. Wonder if the blend is suitable?cellardoor wrote: Has anyone used G-Oil for their 2-stroke engines? I read that its biodegradable, which i think is pretty cool.
http://planetgreen.discovery.com/tech-t ... r-oil.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10162482-54.html
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