My 2001 elite 50 build-up

[aerorob]

good advice, thanks. im just excited to get my new gears on to see what my elite can do!

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

I meant this V8:

http://www.jiangwayne.com/scooter/p_i.php?i=59

If you look closely at the end cap, you can see the "V8" embossed there. I believe it will work at 50cc, if the variator is tuned for higher RPM.

[aerorob]

gotcha wheelman, i can see that now too, very suddle. i think im going that route, although im gonna have to get some high temp paint and cover up that silver... not a good look for me. im gonna start with 7gs rollers to start. thanks for all your help!
one thing though, it will change my air to fuel ratio right? how far up will i have to jet? stock airbox and everything

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Just a guess, dude, but I'd say up from stock 78 to 85 first. Then down to 82 if it's plumb rich. Watch that plug after your first ride, unless you have a CHT gauge.

[aerorob]

sounds good, i just wanted a baseline idea. just ordered the pipe, giddy with excitement.
thanks!

[808BMW]

Disclaimer: If you cannot pay attention while riding, don't blame me. If you cannot ride with 1 hand, don't blame me. If you lose a hand/finger sticking it where it doesn't belong, don't blame me. If you crash... Don't blame me.

I keep my panel off (at least the carb side) and put a finger on the intake manifold. It should be cold, even "sweating" (condensation like a cold soda). If it is still warm, add more gas. It is throttle dependent, so WOT to check your main jet, 1/2 throttle to check your needle, etc.

Still no replacement for a CHT gauge though.

[aerorob]

thanks for that trick.
im going to get a CHT guage when i big bore it, but i figure with just the exhaust ill just jet high then check my plug and jet down accordingly.
i bought the 28mm V8 pipe, does anyone know how loud it is? there is no going back now, but i want to know what to expect.

[evilone]

Greetings:

I meant this V8:

http://www.jiangwayne.com/scooter/p_i.php?i=59

If you look closely at the end cap, you can see the "V8" embossed there. I believe it will work at 50cc, if the variator is tuned for higher RPM.

excellent for stock ~ 90cc bigger bore cylinders.
We recommend 7g rollers for HONDA or SYM Dio stock 50cc engine

Wheelman, how the heck did you see the V8 on the pipe? I have above average vision and had a hard time noticing it. jiangwayne.com should list that, one is listed (dio, V8) and the other (dio, 28mm)....(dio, 28mm, v8) would be better .

[evilone]

sounds good, i just wanted a baseline idea. just ordered the pipe, giddy with excitement.
thanks!

I'm a little giddy for ya
Post results, the wife might need one of them pipes. She don't mind if i spend money on mine as long as i upgrade hers too

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Wheelman has unexceptional vision. I cheated. Bought one. I may be selling it if can swing Plan B.

[808BMW]

It's all in the eyes...
Some of us browse the good sites that aren't in english, and share good info with worthy people.
I've been going back and forth on this pipe for a good 6 months already

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

It's a pretty good deal for $89; pity about the shipping cost from Canada. It is considerably louder than stock, even louder than the intake bark of a UNI pod filter. However I believe it to be a bit small for ported 78cc Nikasil and the 24mm Mikuni smoothbore carb. It loses torque and peaks out below 9600 RPM. I'm considering installing a proper chamber-style exhaust and stinger muffler.

[aerorob]

I got a confirmation e mail from J wayne saying its already shipping. sweet. ill post my results when i get it on!

[aerorob]

so i have made some progress towards my exhaust install, i ordered some parts form hondapartshouse.com
82 and 85 main jets at about 5 bucks a pop which isnt bad
new air cleaner element
transmission gasket for my future gear install,

pretty excited for all this stuff to get here!

[evilone]

It is considerably louder than stock, even louder than the intake bark of a UNI pod filter. However I believe it to be a bit small for ported 78cc Nikasil and the 24mm Mikuni smoothbore carb. It loses torque and peaks out below 9600 RPM. I'm considering installing a proper chamber-style exhaust and stinger muffler.

Sounds like the same thing my R1 did. That's why i have a PG Long waiting to install in the spring.