My 2001 elite 50 build-up

[aerorob]

so i finaly got to ride my scooter with the new exhaust, runs really well and seems to have more power at all speeds. my gps said 43.9 MPH max. does that sound about right? it was pointing towards the L on fuel on my guage. im pretty happy with how it turned out! gears next..

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Yes that's a good result. Faster'n Flash at that build level, anyway.

[aerorob]

awesome, the thing im most excited about is being able to cruise up hills better. i loose alot less speed when i head from flat to a hill. im guessing i can hold about 40 up hills that used to slow me down to 35.

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

You may find even better hill-climbing Oomph with lighter variator rollers, presuming the 9-grams are still in there. The pipe will almost certainly support higher RPM than the 9s are giving you. Consider dropping to 8s and see if you like it better. Flash 2 ran best with 7s using a big intake, carb and the LeoVince SE/05 exhaust, and I'll bet you get down to 6s with the V8, provided you've installed the pod filter.

[aerorob]

thanks wheelman. i am running 7g rollers with my stock airbox. it seems pretty solid right now, no wierd flat spots. it pretty much pulls hard till i run out of rpms. im gonna try out my 8.5s just to see if i like the heavier direction, and if i do i will buy some 8gs. and i still have my 1500k centerspring that i am going to instal when i get a tool for it. any ideas? what do you do to work on your clutch and is it something i could do ay my house?

[bakaracer]

Here is how I do mine. you will need a 12in cresent wrench or 15in wrench.




Hit the handle on the ground in a foward motion and make sure the wrench is on tight and hold good.


once you feel the nut break loose sit down and hold the clutch down with your feet.take the nut off and don't forget to hold down on the clutch if not when you take the nut off,it will spring up.To install do it in reverse.

[aerorob]

thanks! im on my way to buy a huge cresent wrench!

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Thet-thar's good advice, Bak!
Lost there in the Technical Documents I found this old one:

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =5&t=10874

When you swap center springs, you get to start tuning rollers all over again. VeeDubh20 had an excellent post regarding the issue and the effect strong spring + heavy rollers has when compared to light spring and light rollers. As usual, he was spot-on in his description.

I also found the thread for a source for a 39 mm socket, and bought one several months ago. You do want to be very careful not to round off that thin nut.

[aerorob]

thanks everyone. im doing all this right now. im going to try 8.5gs with the 1500 spring first.

[bakaracer]

When you go and ride it,it might feel to light but you have to break the spring in and heat cycle it.

[aerorob]

i did it! so i used the 1.5k spring with my 8.5g rollers and i am pretty satisfied with the performance. i may try lighter rollers, i think my top speed may have been slightly lower with the 8.5 and new spring than 7g rollers and stock center spring. maybe im wrong, i didnt have my gps so i could be off. acceleration certainly improved. would going heavier with weights be better for cruising at high speeds? just trying to figure out which way to go. thanks everyone for all this help!

[aerorob]

so bakaracer the spring will get stiffer when it breaks in? meaning more launch?

[veedubh20]

that how I do change spring how bakaracer shown pictures explain.

it just alone can do it.


Well, to get more launch need to drop few gram rollers,power band the motor will rev more on rpm.

[aerorob]

thanks veedubh, im gonna throw my 7s back in this morning and if i like that ill get some 8s or mix some 8s and 7s if 7s are too revy.

[aerorob]

so thinking ahead, i want to get gears. im going to do 9:1 because for now im staying 50cc. also figured i would do 2k clutch grab springs to let it rev up a little more before engagement to make up for taller gear. then i guess my vari/clutch pulley tuning will start over again...