Having problems... (Spree Sensitive to Filter?)

[WestcoastSPREE]

Hey what's going on.. I am new to the site and have had my spree for a couple weeks. I am having trouble keeping it running. As of right now I am awaiting an air filter for it but is it absolutely esential that I need one or should it run fine without one? Right now I have to "choke" it to actually get it to run good full time.. It's a real pain to start. When it does start it idles for a second then dies with no hesitation to keep running. I have taken the carb apart and cleaned it and put it back together because everything seemed to be in order. This is pretty new to me because all my other two strokes were a bit easier to make run. I just am very lost now and have no clue what to do? Any help would be greatly apreciated.!

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

From reading only, never owned/tuned a Spree:
The Very small, non-replaceable Pilot circuit cast into the carb body is very sensitive to fuel evaporation resins. "Clean the Carb" is likely to be a frequent Mantra. The Ible Mixture Screw below the throttle stop screw provides some measure of adjustment, but cannot fully compensate for the absence of an intact Intake tract.

The Spree and SBs are very sensitive not just to the presence of an oiled filter element, but also to the integrity of the entire intake tract, airbox, and connections. Make sure all is snug, and yes, you'll need to install a new oiled filter before you attempt to "adjust".

[WestcoastSPREE]

Alright thank you.. Any recommendation on what oil to use on the filter.?

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

In this case, oil is oil. Mazola, unless your scooter suffers from high cholesterol, in which case choose one low in saturated fats.

Sinceriously, though, the Honda Service Manual specifies regular 4-stroke motor oil. Wash the filter if dirty, saturate in oil and squeeze it out. Use a Zip-Loc baggie to avoid trouble with Ms. WestCoastSpree.

[WestcoastSPREE]

Awesome thank you. I will do this when it comes in.

[WestcoastSPREE]

Alright after waiting forever to get my new filter in I finally installed it. I oiled it. Checked for leaks in the intake tube and the box. I also got a brand new NGK spark plug installed as well. As stated before I have taken the carb apart and cleaned it just how a thread suggested on this site. As far as I know the carb is all stock and everything looked ship-shape. I have been running higher octane fuel just because I believe regular fuel is garbage. I still can't get the spree to idle on it's own. If I do it will idle for a minute tops and it will stall. I am stuck at this point. Any imput at all would help.. Please help.

[Bear45-70]

Cleaning these carbs is almost an art especially with the very small idle mixture pasages. Look here for help with carb cleaning.

http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... r_Cleaning

And here

http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ture_Guide

[WestcoastSPREE]

That is exactly what I used... Still no luck.

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Intriguing that it takes about a minute to run a bowl dry. Look for manifold line-to-petcock vacuum leak, a low-flowing petcock, or spooge in the float needle that prevents filling rate from keeping up with demand.

Maybe see if connecting the fuel line to a direct, non-vac-dependent fuel source resolves? If so then petcock or vac line issue. If not then float valve needs attention.

[WestcoastSPREE]

Ok so, I went on a ride today after finally getting it started.. For some reason even with the filter I need to cover 60% of the intake tube. It cruises nice at 30-31 mph. It just won't idle.. Any ideas, I'd like to be able to ride without 60% of it covered. And be able to idle.