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tedy · Post by **tedy** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:31 am

hello, i want to know , i have an honda elite sa50 1988 and i want to know if the motor of an other scooter(like suzuki or something like that) is similar than mine. thank

martynkim · Post by **martynkim** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:33 am

Yes it is internal combustion engine

MopedMan84 · Post by **MopedMan84** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:51 am

no it is not, you will need the same make and models parts.....

MopedMan84 · Post by **MopedMan84** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:52 am

what are you trying to do?

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:26 am

MopedMan84 wrote:what are you trying to do?

Jeez dumb s***, he made a joke.

MopedMan84 · Post by **MopedMan84** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:35 am

hey mouth

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:41 am

MopedMan84 wrote:hey mouth

hey big mouth liar

MopedMan84 · Post by **MopedMan84** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:18 am

mouth away

tedy · Post by **tedy** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:24 am

it is because my scooter doesn't have performance part for is year (1988) it is for that i say if an other scooter model is similar than mine

devenex · Post by **devenex** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:41 am

The main part missing for your motor are gears. They have bore kits and performance variators for it, but your top speed will be limited by the gearing.

You can swap in a '94-'01 Elite motor (aka Dio) or do some modest upgrades to what you have now, just depends on what you're looking to get to speed-wise.

Wheelman-111 · Post by **Wheelman-111** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:49 am

Greetings:

Welcome, Tedy. Yes it's a challenge to find Go-Slightly-Faster parts for an SE/05, but by no means impossible. DayWOT on eBay has the very nice 47mm/65cc Polini kit for the early Elite, and there are pipes to be found, despite the difficulties. Scooter-Center-com has the LeoVince 4447 - or did last time I poked around over there. Throw in a #94-ish jet and a Pod filter and you have a scooter that really... er, Scoots up to about 50. Exercise restraint with the throttle hand above that speed, or find some 10:1 gears from a 1987 SE50 along with the fattest tire you can wedge in there. Someone here ('Jamz?) has proven it's possible to perform a complete conversion to '94-later gear sets, which opens up all the ratios available for those engines. The rare Malossi 7.83:1s can occasionally still be found gathering dust on a back shelf in a shop in Firenzi or someplace, but they really are so tall that it poops the take-off party. Search 67-6458 from Malossi.

The only engines that convert fairly easily are those from the aforementioned later '94-2001 Elites, engine code AF16E. With time, money, and fabrication skills, it may not be impossible to find a way to bolt in a Yamaha/Minarelli block, but the challenges there are unknown to me. May be easier to buy a Jog in the first place.

Trafficjamz · Post by **Trafficjamz** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:36 pm

Wheelman-111 wrote: Someone here ('Jamz?) has proven it's possible to perform a complete conversion to '94-later gear sets, which opens up all the ratios available for those engines.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16751&p=140229&hili ... rs#p140229

Here is how it is done.

eliteguy50 · Post by **eliteguy50** » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:38 pm

The 1988-1993 sa50 engine is the same. The sa50p is the restricted version and the 1986-1987 engine is very similar with differences in porting and the intake.

Performance variators for 1985-2001 honda 50cc scooters will fit. Newer variators can be made to fit by cutting the case for clearance.

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