AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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Warning!! If you do this mod, your front spree fender will no longer fit.


Measure the overall length of the spree stem.

Cut both the elite and the spree stems 2.5" from the base.

Use a pipe cutter to make sure the cuts are straight.

Now the next thing your gonna want to do is find a metal rod, that had a outer diameter, the same as the inner diameter of the stems. Cut this metal rod to about 5".

Next you are gonna want to drill some holes in the spree and elite stem pieces. This makes it easier to weld it later.

Slide the metal rod in the cut down elite forks and weld it through the holes that you drilled earlier.

Double check the overall measurement of the new spree/elite stem and make sure it is the same as the original spree stem.

Finally weld the spree stem on to the elite forks and metal rod. Make sure that the square notch lines up in the back.
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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If you don't mind riding naked, you can cut the entire front end off of both and then just swap them. I did that then used gusset plates for additional strength.
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Trafficjamz wrote:Warning!! If you do this mod, your front spree fender will no longer fit.


Measure the overall length of the spree stem.

Cut both the elite and the spree stems 2.5" from the base.

Use a pipe cutter to make sure the cuts are straight.

Now the next thing your gonna want to do is find a metal rod, that had a outer diameter, the same as the inner diameter of the stems. Cut this metal rod to about 5".

Next you are gonna want to drill some holes in the spree and elite stem pieces. This makes it easier to weld it later.

Slide the metal rod in the cut down elite forks and weld it through the holes that you drilled earlier.

Double check the overall measurement of the new spree/elite stem and make sure it is the same as the original spree stem.

Finally weld the spree stem on to the elite forks and metal rod. Make sure that the square notch lines up in the back.
Alright thats awesome thanks a bunch! :smile:
Ill start looking around the shop to see if they have any pieces that will work for that.
And i know the front fender wont fit anymore. What i think ill do it cut the Spree fender right down the middle, drill some holes in the forks and bolt it on so it looks good on both sides. Then, whatever gap there is in the middle of the two halves of the fender i will pop rivet some sheet metal :smile:
Thats the plan anyways
eliteguy50 wrote:If you don't mind riding naked, you can cut the entire front end off of both and then just swap them. I did that then used gusset plates for additional strength.
Man thats even more crazy! I dont even have the option though because i guess they threw the front half of the moped in the dumpster a few years back :sad:
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Man after i do this that front steering stem and suspension will be almost indestructable!
WWIII, were waitin for ya :geekdance:

Thanks for all the help man :rock:
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-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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I never realized the nq50 and sa50 races are the same until just now. That is the main reason to swap the entire setup but now I see that is not needed.
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eliteguy50 wrote:I never realized the nq50 and sa50 races are the same until just now. That is the main reason to swap the entire setup but now I see that is not needed.
The honda express races are the same too. :wink:
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just go disk brake on spree. :nervous:
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veedubh20 wrote:just go disk brake on spree. :nervous:
Sounds like a good recipe for going over the handle bars :surprise:
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Trafficjamz wrote:
veedubh20 wrote:just go disk brake on spree. :nervous:
Sounds like a good recipe for going over the handle bars :surprise:
Thats what i thought when i first saw my dads new honda interceptor! It has TWO 4 piston disk brakes on the front wheel and one four piston disc on the rear. If the front and rear weren't plumbed together... :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: :nervous:

ANYWAYS, all my parts i ordered came in today! The clutch will be coming in a few days, im stoked! :geekdance: :geekdance:
-Polini Corsa
-Polini Belt
-Polini Weights 6.6-9.1g
-Polini "for ruckus" vari
-1k Contra spring
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Patrick, Daywot, was great. Fast shipping and great service. I couldnt have asked for anything better :rock:
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-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
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-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
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*drool* So PRETTY!!!
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Did you bother getting gears. None of that matters if your gonna use stock gears.
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Yeah, im saving up for an order with vt cycles for a bunch of parts as well.
-8.44 secondaries
-Pg sectional muffler
-Oil plug
-Clutch Springs
-Vented clutch bell
-Gear Case Gasket

Then after i can get those parts i can get the other odds and ends from my local honda shop
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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Got the steering stem and new elite forks all welded together! Its looking great!
Its good I made this new set up too because i pulled the old steering stem and forks out and the were bent pretty bad :nervous:
Im glad i found out now instead of on the freeway!!
So now they are all welded together and looking super good...and super straight :smile:
Pics manana
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-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Pics!
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P1010745 by jpetrak, on Flickr
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Welded the stem and forks together around the outside too, then ground it down
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Replaced all the ball bearings while it was torn down
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Looks almost like it came like that :smile:
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P1010755 by jpetrak, on Flickr
I need to stop by honda though because i dont have a spanner wrench to get that wierd nut back on.
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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