1988 Elite LX

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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1988 Elite LX

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Found an Elite LX at a former crackhouse.... Hadn't moved for 15 years. But that is a different story.....

I'm all about efficiency. Well, I'd like some top end. And a little bit off the line.

No seriously, I'm about efficiency (and top end).

The scoot is bone stock. I found it with 1071 miles on the odometer. Since then I've been keeping track of the mileage and what I've put in her:

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Miles:  Gal		Cost		MPG		$/mile
1075				
1143    0.966   $3.14		70.4		$0.05
1214    1.08    $3.59		65.7		$0.05
1276    1.06    $3.46		58.5		$0.06
1332    0.95    $3.14		58.9		$0.06
1399.5  1.137   $3.84		59.4		$0.06
1473.6  1.10    $3.68		67.4		$0.05
1533.6  1.02    $3.46		58.8		$0.06
1578.9  0.812   $2.73		55.8		$0.06
Seems that being 6'5" and 230 with an aggressive throttle means I get about 60 MPG.

I'm wondering what I could do to make her a bit faster on the straights and downhills without spending too much $$$ or affecting the MPG. After spending much time reading through the site I think that upgrading the variator is the best bang for buck.

Comments?

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A jog variator will make it faster but to get the bottom end power boost takes lighter rollers in the variator which takes away from the top end. You can change gears for more top end, but that takes away from the bottom end. A bigger rear tire will help the top end, but hurt the bottom end. It is all a lot of trade offs. A big bore kit will help the bottom end and the top end.
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Bear- a jog variator will not work on these honda motors.
Yes the best bang for what your looking for is a aftermarket variator.the other cheap upgrade is milling the head to up the compression. That will add torque which is what's needed to gain that extra bottom end and topend
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Bear45-70 wrote:A jog variator will make it faster but to get the bottom end power boost takes lighter rollers in the variator which takes away from the top end. You can change gears for more top end, but that takes away from the bottom end. A bigger rear tire will help the top end, but hurt the bottom end. It is all a lot of trade offs. A big bore kit will help the bottom end and the top end.
Try a Ruckus (Honda) instead of Jog (Yamaha) variator. The big bore kit will eat away at your fuel economy so transmission tuning is your best option.
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eliteguy50 wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:A jog variator will make it faster but to get the bottom end power boost takes lighter rollers in the variator which takes away from the top end. You can change gears for more top end, but that takes away from the bottom end. A bigger rear tire will help the top end, but hurt the bottom end. It is all a lot of trade offs. A big bore kit will help the bottom end and the top end.
Try a Ruckus (Honda) instead of Jog (Yamaha) variator. The big bore kit will eat away at your fuel economy so transmission tuning is your best option.
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Re: 1988 Elite LX

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Greetings:

A bigger Drive Face will yield a bit taller gearing overall, thus raising speed Potential.
However top speed may not actually increase if gearing wasn't the limiting factor. Engine power, not gearing, may be the reason it doesn't go faster.

Do the basics first: check compression. A new air filter and clear the exhaust. A new spark plug, then optimize carb jetting. Fill the tires to max sidewall pressure to decrease rolling resistance, particularly for heavier riders.

A largrer rear tire, bigger vario and even gears will for sure allow faster speeds downwind or downhill, not so sure about the flats.
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