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I just pull the bowl on my brand new never been installed OKO 26 mm carb and the float is 19.25 mm, so 19 should be a good number. Oh and all the OKO - PWK carbs use the same float bowl parts, hence the float setting is the same.
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Chicago Ben wrote:
Trafficjamz wrote:That is how my 86cc ran .....with that filter on. :wink:

What is the jetting now?
Ha I knew someone was going to chime in about that filter. I'm at 50 pilot and 155 main. I just ordered a set from scooter assasins on fleabay which will give me 158, 160, 165, 170, 175, 180

I'm thinking one step at a time, shouldn't my ideal temp range be under 300?

Your Ideal temp range should be 300-375
Try taking that filter off and see if the problem gets better or worse.

I know you really like that bling bling :wink:
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Bear45-70 wrote:I just pull the bowl on my brand new never been installed OKO 26 mm carb and the float is 19.25 mm, so 19 should be a good number. Oh and all the OKO - PWK carbs use the same float bowl parts, hence the float setting is the same.
I appreciate it, I will pull off the carb tonight and get some measurements after I do these ribs on the bbq
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Trafficjamz wrote:Your Ideal temp range should be 300-375
Try taking that filter off and see if the problem gets better or worse.

I know you really like that bling bling :wink:
every time I ride around the city... bling bling. Once I have this float bowl measurement figured out thats the next variable... either that or the main jet needle clip position

to many d*** variables!!!
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so I measured my floats according to mystic's guide and I was pretty d*** close to the 19mm bear's stock 26mm is at (weird eh?) ... I bent them down just slightly. reinstalled- same issues, maybe slightly better? (could be in my head)

just to make traffic happy I ran the bike without the air filer-

results... same.

It's starving for fuel I feel like even at 160 main. Hopefully my package from scooter assassins comes this week with an assortment of large main jets.


On a side note- I broke my d*** plug cap. The piece literally shattered. Who sells good aftermarket ones? VT?
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why do you think it is starving for fuel? :confused:

Is it possible you are going in the wrong direction?

Maybe it is too rich. What jets have you tried so far?
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Trafficjamz wrote:why do you think it is starving for fuel? :confused:

Is it possible you are going in the wrong direction?

Maybe it is too rich. What jets have you tried so far?
I have no clue why its starving. When I reinstalled my carb today, I kicked the bike over once and watched the float fill up rather quickly so I know there is no issue with my fuel lines or vacuum. The bike idles great, it doesn't even smoke really either with 32:1.

I started at a 155 main and now I'm at 160. I just have a feeling that it's all air an no fuel at 1/4+ throttle by the way it BOGGS.

When these new jets come in I'm going to put a 175 in there and see what happens I guess. Better to be too rich than too lean and blow this up anyway.... right? :confused:
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So raise the needle but feelings just don't get the job done with novice tuners. If it is crapping out at 1/4 throttle, run it there for 10 seconds and do a plug chop. Read the plug and it will tell you whether it is too rich or lean. You do not have to run at WOT to do a plug chop, if your problem is else where do the chop at the RPM.
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Chicago Ben wrote:
Better to be too rich than too lean and blow this up anyway.... right? :confused:

But if you are way too rich the bike won't run.

My 86cc bike with a 30 mm carb was jetted @ 52 pilot 135 main needle 1 clip up from middle and air fuel screw 1 3/4 turns out

your 155 main in a 26mm carb makes no sense to me. :crazy:

That has too be rich. And now your ordered even bigger jets :surprise:

I think you are going in the wrong direction. :confused: :?

Do you have smaller jets?
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Bear45-70 wrote: You do not have to run at WOT to do a plug chop
I did not know that
:urban: I learned something today.
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Trafficjamz wrote:My 86cc bike with a 30 mm carb was jetted @ 52 pilot 135 main needle 1 clip up from middle and air fuel screw 1 3/4 turns out

your 155 main in a 26mm carb makes no sense to me. :crazy:
All I know is that this is cutting out majorly...

I believe the needle position 1 clip up from middle is the 'stock' position on these oko carbs, if I'm correct on that, that's where I am because I have not moved it.

Maybe I should drop down and see what's going on

In my current bag of goodies before these large jets arive I have sizes 112 (stock in the 26mm oko) 140, 145, 150, 160 (in the carb now)

Maybe I'll throw that 140 in there and see what's up
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I suspect 130 or lower is needed.

http://www.treatland.tv/OKO-main-jets-l ... -large.htm

Here is a good pack to get :wink:
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Greetings:

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you guys are probably right, I'm probably just flooding this bike
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wheelman- your original recommendation to me, along the lines of 'start no lower than 150-155 main' , for a starting point one would just go down from there correct?
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