Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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swimmingfree wrote:it may need gas on the bottom of the crab is a scrue to drain the bole .. UN do it and see if gas come out ..look in the book it will show it step one
I can't find this in the book. Where is it in the book?
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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its in fule system
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very bottom of float bowl there is a recessed screw head looking at you. If you unscrew it a few turns fuel should come out of the tube opposite of the screw. If not you have either petcock issues, plugged fuel inlet, stuck float needle, bad fuel line, and possibly other issues.

check the petcock by removing the vacuum line from the intake and the fuel line from the carb. using your lips and lungs, suck on the vacuum line and fuel should come out of the fuel line.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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judging by your posts, you know next to absolutely nothing about what you are doing. I recommend you sit down with a snack and a glass of tea and read the manual from cover to cover and familiarize yourself with the ins and outs of your scooter before you trying anything else :D I say this because thats what I did, will help you understand the advice we are giving you if you know what we are talking about. Which at the moment you really dont, its kewl though not downing you or anything but you really should read the manual from front to back
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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dun rite wrote:very bottom of float bowl there is a recessed screw head looking at you. If you unscrew it a few turns fuel should come out of the tube opposite of the screw. If not you have either petcock issues, plugged fuel inlet, stuck float needle, bad fuel line, and possibly other issues.

check the petcock by removing the vacuum line from the intake and the fuel line from the carb. using your lips and lungs, suck on the vacuum line and fuel should come out of the fuel line.
Did that. No gas came out anywhere. Whats that tell you? At this point i think the carburator needs an overhaul. Seems like the motor is not getting fuel. I doubt it is the fuel line. I am going to remove the carb and clean it up tmrw morning.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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if sucking on the vacuum line did not allow fuel to flow out of the fuel line, then the pectcock is either plugged, not working, or the filter tube in the tank that is connected to the petcock is plugged. sometime you can soak them in gas overnight and they will free up and work if the diaghram is dried out. replacements on ebay are not to expensive.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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STOP

read what dun rite said
then read what Mystic said
now here what you should do get the book out and read the part about the fuel system
slowly and take you time look at all the stuff on thefuel system..
you may want to read it 3 or 4 times it will help you a lot.. going fast is not doing it at all as you and i can see .. these are not something you can just throw away the book and make it work .. well not most of us.. we are looking at our books at times as well .. so slow down get the book and do some reading on the fuel system ..if you keep going like a mad man you will not get it running and you may make so bad you may never get it running.. we dont want that eather.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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dun rite wrote:if sucking on the vacuum line did not allow fuel to flow out of the fuel line, then the pectcock is either plugged, not working, or the filter tube in the tank that is connected to the petcock is plugged. sometime you can soak them in gas overnight and they will free up and work if the diaghram is dried out. replacements on ebay are not to expensive.
I didnt end up doing that. The carb has so much sh1t caked on it that its high time it took a bath and got a thorough cleaning. I will feel much better after the carb is thoroughly cleaned and respectable looking. Right now its a mess. I agree though; i think this is fuel delivery issue.
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thinks you will need when doing the crab
1 a can of crab cleaner ( maby 3 )
2 camera take lots of photo as you go a long so you see how it came a part it will help you put it back together
3 the book as well to help
4 a lot of clean rags
5 a bole or can to put the parts in to soke
6 a table to work on


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the first thing you want to do is clean the out side of the crab before you start ( be careful with this stuff its bad news ) so you don't have all the crap getting in the intake manifold ( put a clean rag in in the intake manifold hole ) ..
this is a fine piece of work be careful not to strip out the bolt holes if you do ????? and on and on and on big job and not a good job for some one to do if they have never done one before. one bad move or lost part (and the crab is junk ) or the jet to loss or tight and it wont start ..

or do this frist

dun rite is telling you what is a way to see if gas even coming to the crab ..because if the gas is not coming to the crab it wont matter how clean the crab is it wont run!!!! the vac line is the hose that come from the gas tank and gos to the intake manifold. if you suck on it the other hose..with the other hose off you should get gas down .. if not that's why it not running ..

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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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MotleyCrue wrote:wood10214 I beat you to it. Already printed and bound a copy at work this morning.
Mystic wrote:I recommend you sit down with a snack and a glass of tea and read the manual from cover to cover and familiarize yourself with the ins and outs of your scooter before you trying anything else
That is very nice copy of the manual, in color too, Wow!
Read it cover to cover, get the best of it.
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clean that whole moped. it currently looks like it was parked in the forest for 10 years
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Chicago Ben wrote:clean that whole moped. it currently looks like it was parked in the forest for 10 years
Dude you have no idea. I am so * at the previous owner for being so irresponsible and careless. I have been emailing him asking him various questions like "did you go off-roading with this thing? did you leave this outside for 10 years?". He says no. Regardless, yes I am taking your advice. Little by little man. I got the back end cleaned up after I took out the fuel tank and oil tank. Now that I have the carb and air cleaner box out I, I can really get into the engine compartment and clean up the engine.

Anyway, here is an update of photos. I have the carb all taken apart and ready for a soak in a paint gallon of carb cleaner. d*** this sh1t is expensive; $27.99 at Advance Auto. That's nuts. Anyway check out the photos. I also found a great carb cleaning page on this site here, with awesome photos... http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... ture_Guide
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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You need a gallon carb dip :surprise:
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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on your first photo is the screw that drains the crab its is on the bottom of the photo that is what you needed to undo to see if gas was in the crab.
its not the outside of the crab that need to be clean its the in side.. be careful some crab cleaner well mess up rubber so not put then in the crab cleaner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
even when you get it done if you don't have gas getting to the crab it wont run so now is the time to see if the petcock is either plugged, not working, on gas and it wont run
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