Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
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- Motley Crue
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
Ok I have my video up. Here it is. Haven't checked it so don't know if the quality is good...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3iNYTROYCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3iNYTROYCQ
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
point it to the ground.. or drill small hole in the tail pipe and put it there???
now all you need is the test ride and then to brush you teeth to get the bug out of them
and the world will be grate have fun be safe and remember all cars out way you so keep a eye on them
thanks
swimmingfree
now all you need is the test ride and then to brush you teeth to get the bug out of them
and the world will be grate have fun be safe and remember all cars out way you so keep a eye on them
thanks
swimmingfree
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se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
there are 2 vent tubes and 1 drain tube on the carb. the very bottom pointing at the engine directly opposite the drain screw is the drain tube, connects to nothing. the nipple at the top of the float bowl that points downward also connects to nothing . the upper one actually fits into the bystarter cover.
1 7/8 is the starting point for adj. the idle mixture. read that section in the manual it will explain how to fine tune the adj.
1 7/8 is the starting point for adj. the idle mixture. read that section in the manual it will explain how to fine tune the adj.
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
dun rite this page says some of your line explanations are wrong.... http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... n_of_Linesdun rite wrote:there are 2 vent tubes and 1 drain tube on the carb. the very bottom pointing at the engine directly opposite the drain screw is the drain tube, connects to nothing. the nipple at the top of the float bowl that points downward also connects to nothing . the upper one actually fits into the bystarter cover.
1 7/8 is the starting point for adj. the idle mixture. read that section in the manual it will explain how to fine tune the adj.
Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
the only one it shows that i talked about is called the overflow. On my 94 it goes to the bystarter cover. the one shown may be for the 1988- 1993.
the picture doesn't show the two on the float bowl.
but if you found this pic. why'd you ask?
the picture doesn't show the two on the float bowl.
but if you found this pic. why'd you ask?
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
I asked because I couldn't find where this other tube I have goes to. You know, the one on the ground in my video. It must connect to the bystarter, but where does the other end go? Oh, I also realized I was adjusting the wrong screw to 1 7/8 loosened turns for air/fuel ratio. I was doing that to the idler screw. The one under the idler screw is supposed to be 1 7/8 turns, then you adjust the idler screw until the moped idles correctly.dun rite wrote:the only one it shows that i talked about is called the overflow. On my 94 it goes to the bystarter cover. the one shown may be for the 1988- 1993.
the picture doesn't show the two on the float bowl.
but if you found this pic. why'd you ask?
I am really excited to get my moped running guys. Thank you all for your help throughout. I was really worried when I put in fresh gas and oil, but the moped stopped running. It ended up being a stupid issue with the gas and vacuum lines being pinched. Now with the carb thoroughly cleaned out and the moped running nicely, I am pumped. Little by little I am going to replace unsightly parts. Like the rear shock, which is all caked in mud and oily grime, the hardware at the hub of both wheels which is weathered and rusted in appearance. After I get most of the things back together I am going to remove both wheels and use rust remover to clean up the rims. After that I am going to prime and paint them a fresh new white. They look crappy. Anyone know where I can get new brake parts and all the parts that are visible at the wheel areas? You know, the covers that shield all the brake shoes and stuff, the bolts, etc. They are all rusted looking. I want to make the bike look nice now, little by little. The previous guy obviously rode this in the rain and mud, and I just want to clean it up.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
Do you guys know anything about these "Big Bore" kits? I am not looking into doing that right now, or even until next year at the earliest, but I am just curious so please don't tell me I "just got the bike running, enjoy it"! I AM JUST CURIOUS. Give me info on these kits, as far as how easy they are to install, performance increase information, top speed increase info, etc.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-SA ... leQ5fParts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-SA ... leQ5fParts
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
back on page 4 i said
take lots of photo as you go a long so you see how it came a part it will help you put it back together
ill bet you witch you did that!!
remember that Honda change thing from year to year sometimes small things sometime big things you cant just go by one photo on line that's y i said to take lots of photo.. what if someone had put a after market crab on there .. as for the crab tuning the book is a starting point you will have to fine tune it ... if you Honda runs grate at sea level it wont run the same it Denver the at mile hi .
you need more time working on this things as a stock bike before you get to bbk or outer mods thay are a lot harder to do and to fine tune and if you don't do it right you end up blowing up the motor .. if you do allot of reading on this form you will see what i'm saying..
swimmingfree
do you even have a mile on it yet ?
take lots of photo as you go a long so you see how it came a part it will help you put it back together
ill bet you witch you did that!!
remember that Honda change thing from year to year sometimes small things sometime big things you cant just go by one photo on line that's y i said to take lots of photo.. what if someone had put a after market crab on there .. as for the crab tuning the book is a starting point you will have to fine tune it ... if you Honda runs grate at sea level it wont run the same it Denver the at mile hi .
you need more time working on this things as a stock bike before you get to bbk or outer mods thay are a lot harder to do and to fine tune and if you don't do it right you end up blowing up the motor .. if you do allot of reading on this form you will see what i'm saying..
swimmingfree
do you even have a mile on it yet ?
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
If I understand correctly, most of the parts your talking about probably just need cleaned, derusted and painted. brake shoes, cables and other moving parts are available at your honda dealer, ebay, several online honda shops which have parts breakdowns on there sites:
http://www.collegebikeshop.com/fiche_se ... &fveh=3638
http://www.hondabike.com/fiche_select1. ... &mfg=Honda
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_ye ... lies/13524
Not sure which elite you have. there were 2 50cc models. one is the sa50p the elite s (restricted model) the other is the sa50 elite sr (unrestricted) Most of the parts are the same, differences are exhaust muffler, carb jetting, and variator restrictor plate
You can also post for wanted/needed parts in the for sale section of the forum.
Do a search and check the wiki. for how to's and performance increases for the bbk's. It's not just the cyl and piston, once you get started upgrading it's hard to stop, everyone always wants more power and speed. :smile
Glad you got it runnind
http://www.collegebikeshop.com/fiche_se ... &fveh=3638
http://www.hondabike.com/fiche_select1. ... &mfg=Honda
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/model_ye ... lies/13524
Not sure which elite you have. there were 2 50cc models. one is the sa50p the elite s (restricted model) the other is the sa50 elite sr (unrestricted) Most of the parts are the same, differences are exhaust muffler, carb jetting, and variator restrictor plate
You can also post for wanted/needed parts in the for sale section of the forum.
Do a search and check the wiki. for how to's and performance increases for the bbk's. It's not just the cyl and piston, once you get started upgrading it's hard to stop, everyone always wants more power and speed. :smile
Glad you got it runnind
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
Ok new problem. First I wanna say I just drove that baby around for like 20 minutes of driving time and that was awesome! I drove it to my parents house, ate some dinner, then drove back to my house. My problem is this... the speedometer and odometer do not work! I am going to look in the manual and see if there is a troubleshooting section. I don't think the fuel gage works either. It has been on "Full" before and after I drove it. It hasn't budged. Any pointers? More importantly on the speedometer and odometer.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
Greetings:
Does the fuel gauge needle move a little when you turn the key on? If so, it may be that the tank is still pretty full. It stays near F for a while, then drops pretty quickly as the tank gets below 3/4. These things don't consume much fuel unless they're modded for high revs.
On the speedometer, the cable is often the problem. There's a little plastic gear in the front hub that can go bad, too. Hopefully it's not the gauge cluster, but you can find used ones on fEeBaY all the time for ~$25-50 or so.
Does the fuel gauge needle move a little when you turn the key on? If so, it may be that the tank is still pretty full. It stays near F for a while, then drops pretty quickly as the tank gets below 3/4. These things don't consume much fuel unless they're modded for high revs.
On the speedometer, the cable is often the problem. There's a little plastic gear in the front hub that can go bad, too. Hopefully it's not the gauge cluster, but you can find used ones on fEeBaY all the time for ~$25-50 or so.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
hay that get about 80 to 100 mpg look in the tank
not use a litter
swimmingfree
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
- swimmingfree
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
in the book go to 12-0
it show the speed cable take out the screw ( down by the front tire) and see if its spin or is broke..
i broke mine once this year its a start or take off the gas cap and get on eBay and see if you can find all that gos under it
lol
swimmingfree
ps stop smileing
it show the speed cable take out the screw ( down by the front tire) and see if its spin or is broke..
i broke mine once this year its a start or take off the gas cap and get on eBay and see if you can find all that gos under it
swimmingfree
ps stop smileing
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
looking for
se50 crank...
SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
- Motley Crue
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
Ok so I found out what is wrong with the speedometer. I removed the screw at the front wheel which connects the speed cable to the wheel hub. I examined the metal cable inside the speed cable, and it is broken. For those who don't know, that cable has a flat female end to it, sort of a lip which accepts a spinning male end from the wheel hub. When the tire spins, it spins the inside of the cable which is read by the speedometer and odometer. I pulled the inner cable and it just pulled right out. I looked at the end of it and it is obviously snapped. At some point it just had a weak point which gave up. I need to buy a new speed cable and I am good to go there. The fuel gage is fine. I noticed it moving when I turned the key. Just need to burn gas to see it drop.
Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc
funny to think about isn't it? worried about not using enough fuelMotleyCrue wrote: I don't think the fuel gage works either. It has been on "Full" before and after I drove it. It hasn't budged. Any pointers? More importantly on the speedometer and odometer.
taz 50mm bbk, 51g. rollers,1500 c spring
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges
24mm arreche, #20 pilot, E2 needle clip on lower groove
arreche air filter
Naruku intake, reeds & block
v8 pipe
stock gears
trail tech temp & rpm gauges