Elite SA50P Cuts Out with WOT

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Finished cleaning the exhaust. This is what the solution looked like after:

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Very dark. I rinsed it thoroughly with a garden hose and then used a shop vac to blow air through it so it would dry quickly and push out any remaining debris.

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I did hear a little rattle inside after it was completely dry. I imagine that's bits of carbon?

Tried it out and the first thing I noticed was that it was a little louder. It did feel like I had increased power but still cut out at around 1/2 - 3/4 throttle. Slow up hills.

Perhaps I should wait for my new main jet and test again then?

As for the exhaust gasket, I ordered a new one and reshaped the old one better for the meanwhile.

Until the next update, I'll leave you with a put together picture:

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Hey if you dont want to tie the oil pump open then you would have to buy a split throttle cable. From what I have done and have heard alot of on here is to just tie it open then add a cap full of oil to a full tank of gas. The 78 main is the unrestricted jet, but that is still running very lean. I was suggested to use a 82 and I am waiting on one myself. Hope that helps!
Oh, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised once you get that new jet in there. Tie that oil pump open! :rock:
Hey, is the vari unrestricted also?
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Good job cleaning the muffler out, i've used both methods with good results.
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evilone wrote:Good job cleaning the muffler out, i've used both methods with good results.
Thanks
allisswell wrote:Hey if you dont want to tie the oil pump open then you would have to buy a split throttle cable. From what I have done and have heard alot of on here is to just tie it open then add a cap full of oil to a full tank of gas. The 78 main is the unrestricted jet, but that is still running very lean. I was suggested to use a 82 and I am waiting on one myself. Hope that helps!
Oh, and I think you will be pleasantly surprised once you get that new jet in there. Tie that oil pump open! :rock:
Hey, is the vari unrestricted also?
I'm going to go with the tying open the oil pump approach. As for removing the restricting plate on the variator, I did that tonight with mixed results. Now, I can barely get up hills at about 10-15 mph and only by giving it very little throttle, otherwise it cuts out. I do however get better speed going downhill, just under 35.

I'm still trouble shooting the original issue, and suspect there's something else that's wrong. I welcome any other suggestions, otherwise I'll update once I've put the 82 main jet in, and replaced the exhaust gasket. I'll try adjusting the needle clip and drilling a second hole in the airbox too.
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once you start modifying your ride you will find other things that need to be done to improve it, its a sickness we all become afflicted with :D you definately need that bigger jet, the 68 is only 3 up from a stock Spree jet lol also if you have never changed hte belt it may be too worn to be as effective on the outer part of the variator that it is now able to access but that is just a thought nothing is usually for certain
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Hey how long will it take to get your jet from the honda dealer. I have a 78 that I ordered a month ago that just should up today. I had already purchased another one in the mean time, if you want to buy it.
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allisswell wrote:Hey how long will it take to get your jet from the honda dealer. I have a 78 that I ordered a month ago that just should up today. I had already purchased another one in the mean time, if you want to buy it.
My dealer usually has my parts in 3-5 days. A month is called "too lazy to call you when it comes in".
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Hey everyone, time for an update.

So I moved the needle clip down one, tightened the air box up better, drilled a second hole, and installed a 78 main jet and she's now running perfectly. 35 on level ground and approx 27 up hills. I can run it at full throttle all day long without issue. I'm very happy. Just need to tie the oil open tomorrow.

Thanks for everyone's help!

As a slight aside, the 82 ended up not being available through my local Honda dealer.
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awesome glad to hear it man :D
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
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Very happy to hear it is running good for you have fun. :peace:
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