89 Elite R - my first build

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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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If the cyl is still on, I would find a friend with an impact wrench. Most local shops will hit it for you for free if you ask nicely.
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Majourlittle wrote:If the cyl is still on, I would find a friend with an impact wrench. Most local shops will hit it for you for free if you ask nicely.
Got a compressor and pneumatic tools on the way this weekend 8)
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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I use a pair of vise grips clamped onto the drive face and the handle either braced aghainst the clutch or a block sitting on the ground depending on tightening or loosing. once braced take a socket wrench and tap it with a hammer till the bolt loosens. as for the clutch I put a broomstick through the backwheel then spin it so it braces aghainst the bottom of the motor or top depending and also tap the socket wrench handle till the bolt loosens :D good luck
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Mystic wrote:I use a pair of vise grips clamped onto the drive face and the handle either braced aghainst the clutch or a block sitting on the ground depending on tightening or loosing. once braced take a socket wrench and tap it with a hammer till the bolt loosens. as for the clutch I put a broomstick through the backwheel then spin it so it braces aghainst the bottom of the motor or top depending and also tap the socket wrench handle till the bolt loosens :D good luck
That is bad *. If i only knew this before I removed the motor.
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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So with the motor out, I get antsy to get it all cleaned up and stripped down. Im taking lots of pictures and labeling stuff so I know where things go when its time to assemble.

Once I removed the heat cover for the cylinder, I see the hideousness that is.....

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now the whole thing is super rusty, but it does not stop there. I remove the head of the cylinder and I find this

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Now that seems to be a fair sized chunk of something. Im amazed the scooter ran so well for how much I drove it this summer.

Now I wish to also remove the cylinder, how would I go about doing so? I found 2 bolts by the fan which seems to go somewhere, but the cylinder doesn't budge when I remove them.

So again I humbly ask the experts here, how do I remove this ugly monstrosity?
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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This is about the time you want to check the manuals that are posted on this site. The flywheel hides a few more bolts, but removing that takes a bit more ingenuity.
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Majourlittle wrote:This is about the time you want to check the manuals that are posted on this site. The flywheel hides a few more bolts, but removing that takes a bit more ingenuity.
So I was quickly browsing the wiki and came across this

http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... it_Install

Now these steps are for the newer elite, but I'm wondering if the same rules apply in regards to removing the 4 bolts on the head and pulling the cylinder off. I'm sure it was never off for the 22 years of its life so would it be the gasket holding it on? Or would it be the bolts behind the fly wheel that you speak of? (Wiki shows sa50 I have se50)
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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tap the cylinder with a rubber mallet from the bottom in an upward motion till it loosens up the gasket has it sealed to the block :D the combustion chamber on the cylinder head actually doesnt look THAT bad it could be completely coated in carbon :D
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Mystic wrote:tap the cylinder with a rubber mallet from the bottom in an upward motion till it loosens up the gasket has it sealed to the block :D the combustion chamber on the cylinder head actually doesnt look THAT bad it could be completely coated in carbon :D
Thank you good sir. I will give this a whirl and let you know how it goes.
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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how is he calling good sir????? Mystic ill bet he meant Gross and stool you like corn in it??
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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MMMMMMMM BBQ Exhaust

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Also sliced and diced my clutch cover and stripped the black paint off it. Ended it cutting it with a meat saw, which worked rather well

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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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hay if you did not have naked women dancing around it it's not clean...
we need prof if you did.. lol

your doing it right the first time clean before you find out its full ...
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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Got some more work done on my day off. Took off the variator with the impact gun. I think im going to order a ruckus one to replace it.

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And while I have the variator out of the way i got some more engine cleaning done:

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I had some old heat resistant paint that is aluminum is color, so decided to slap a coat on my exhaust and the cooling shroud for the cylinder

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Also started painting the panels and the fan cover

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I just got a little body work to do on the front panel, and then i'm done painting.
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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So i decided to take a look inside the stock vari, and wow is it ever full of grease! I'm assuming the factory ones are suppose to be greased? I'm not overly concerned, where I am replacing it with a ruckus vari, but still found it strange

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is this normal?
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