89 Elite R - my first build

[89eliteR]

Another thing. How do I clean the head of my motor? There seems to be a chunk on it, and I dont want to ruin anything trying to take it off:



would I be better off replacing it?

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Put the spark plug in, fill the dome with carb cleaner and let soak ~24h. Use a PLASTIC scraper and chip away. Shouldn't harm the harder metal.

[89eliteR]

Greetings:

Put the spark plug in, fill the dome with carb cleaner and let soak ~24h. Use a PLASTIC scraper and chip away. Shouldn't harm the harder metal.

where its in pieces now could I submerge in carb cleaner?

[MopedMark]

Quick question:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Honda-Spree-Elit ... _500wt_922

I wanted to pick up this kit, it is made for a spree but i think my engine is the same af05, just looking to see if this would be a good investment.

That is not the correct kit you have a variated AF05

[89eliteR]

Quick question:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Honda-Spree-Elit ... _500wt_922

I wanted to pick up this kit, it is made for a spree but i think my engine is the same af05, just looking to see if this would be a good investment.

That is not the correct kit you have a variated AF05

what do you mean by variated af05?

[Carnie]

Quick question:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Honda-Spree-Elit ... _500wt_922

I wanted to pick up this kit, it is made for a spree but i think my engine is the same af05, just looking to see if this would be a good investment.

That is not the correct kit you have a variated AF05

what do you mean by variated af05?

Your af05 is variated. Meaning you have a variator. If you really want the kit, I could trade you one of my unvariated af05e motors for your variated one. It has less than 2k miles on it.

[89eliteR]

So the spree is a non varied af05? how does this affect the jug and the carb setup?

[MopedMark]

This might help you understand the diffence in the Elites.

AF05 non variated (Parts will not work with your Elite)
Spree NQ50
Elite SB50

AF05 Variated (Parts will work with your Elite)
Elite SE50 and R
Elite SA50 88-93
Aeros (not sure which years had the AF05)

http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Honda/ ... eSE50.html

[Mystic]

85-87 Aero NB50s have the variated af05...the 85 throws some for a loop since it has the 2 bolt manifold instead of the 4 bolt manifold that is an usual indication between the nonvariated engine. I think the Aero/Lead was the first model to carry the variated af05

[89eliteR]

wowzers. well the good news i actually bought the parts off of tazland001 so i did not shoot myself in the foot. the carb does work with my motor which is great. i think im going to go with the malossi kit from red ret performance on here once my d*** paypal funds actually transfer. i guess all af05 are not created equal.

[niftyman]

The ct intake will not bolt up to your variated af05e you will have to make a adapter plate to make it fit

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

Here's just a bit more 411 on the differences between the AF16-later and the Variated AF05E engines.

I'm thinkin' 5 was Soichiro-san's lucky number. 5 bolts for the tranny case, 5 bolts for the rear belt cover, 5 bolts for the front one...
And two COMPLETELY different engines that both feature the engine Code AF 05 E. Buyer beware when you shop for stuff.

[89eliteR]

The ct intake will not bolt up to your variated af05e you will have to make a adapter plate to make it fit

what do you mean by an adapter plate?

[niftyman]

Check the link above and scroll down wheelman has a pic of a ct intake mounted to the SE05 block with the adapter plate it is easy to make out of a 5mm thick alloy plate i made one the only tools i used was a hacksaw a drillgun and a set of files oh and a pen i got my alloy from a machine shop out of the scrap pile

[89eliteR]

Check the link above and scroll down wheelman has a pic of a ct intake mounted to the SE05 block with the adapter plate it is easy to make out of a 5mm thick alloy plate i made one the only tools i used was a hacksaw a drillgun and a set of files oh and a pen i got my alloy from a machine shop out of the scrap pile

You had me worried for a sec. I guess I can visualize this better once I have the carb home. From what I understand, the intake, that joins the motor and the carb does not totally cover what the stock intake does? The pic in the link is kinda hard to see the purpose of it.