1987 Honda Elite S w/ pictures 99.01%

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1987 Honda Elite S w/ pictures 99.01%

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I am in the process of restoring a 1987 Honda Elite s (SE50) with engine code AF05E. The piston I had measured three times, and am I tripping or did I forget how to use a ruler lol, because it measures 51mm with tons of extra material also on the casting of the cylinder jug(correction 01/04/12 the gaping tool has extra lines and that is why I was measuring wrong LOL). Sorry the picture quality on iPods suxx. I hooked up a sweet gel battery, and I could only get the horn to honk beep and tail light lights up when the key is on position, when I squeeze break levers brake light does NOT light up, turn signals do not click (flash) (correction: 01/04/12 got to get a new flasher unit), start does not turn starter motor (starter motor works had tested) (correction 01/04/12 :I cleaned the connection in the steering controls), CDI works had it plugged right into a 2005 SYM DD50. Rough guess I may need new controls, starter relay/solenoid PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong, umm... of course bulbs, regulator/rectifier not too sure if needed when horn works and tail light lights up. If anyone has got some 411 please help me out. This one will definately be a keeper when fully restored to factory, or maybe a 65cc refresh kit. 02/7/12 Met front end, bmx stem and bars, relocated fr turn signals, single headlight

Just got Legal today 01/2012, installed flasher relay today 01/18/2012, relocated turn signals 01/18/2012.

I'm at 99.01% So I can leave myself with options.
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41mm cylinder
41mm cylinder
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41mm piston
41mm piston
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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Your trippin
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Re: 1987 Honda Elite S restore and piston size verification

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kingkamehameha wrote:Your trippin
ok so I know the quality is bad but by judgement of picture what size piston is this. Some actual help would be most appreciated :)

(correction: LOL I figured the problem, wrong measuring tool :crazy: )
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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Kolten wrote:The piston I had measured three times, and am I trippin or did I forget how to use a ruler lol because it measures 51mm with tons of extra material also on the casting of the cylinder jug.
I'm pretty sure 51mm is a little over 2 inches, you're nowhere near that.
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inch/mm CONVERSION CHART
25.4 to 1 inch
hope this helps
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this is a joke plz follow link and buy tool......
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-dig ... 47257.html
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first download and study this. http://www.hondaspree.net/other/SE50_19 ... Manual.pdf it will be of great importance for your resto.

then download this one. ww.hondaspree.net/other/SE50_1987_Wire_Diagram.jpg

Also there is lots of info in the wikispreedia. ww.hondaspree.net/other/SE50_1987_Wire_Diagram.jpg

the headlight only works when the motor is running. as far as the elect. start it helps to have a multi meter for testing. could be bad wires, switches, connections, solenoid,
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Charge the battery.
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Bear45-70 wrote:Charge the battery.
Hey, Thanks to all. Ill be sure to take my time on this restore. It my first elite ever and 2nd 2T as well. My first is a DD50 that one is for my girl. We sold our cars to commute since we always in town (very busy).

Thanks for the info you all have given me and thanks to wikispreedia. Ill be sure to make a donation once everthing is squared away :thumbwink:
1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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fastplastic wrote:this is a joke plz follow link and buy tool......
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-dig ... 47257.html
Kolten wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:Charge the battery.
Hey, Thanks to all. Ill be sure to take my time on this restore. It my first elite ever and 2nd 2T as well. My first is a DD50 that one is for my girl. We sold our cars to commute since we always in town (very busy).

Thanks for the info you all have given me and thanks to wikispreedia. Ill be sure to make a donation once everthing is squared away :thumbwink:
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Last edited by Kolten on Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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Re: 1987 Honda Elite S restore and piston size verification

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Kolten wrote:
fastplastic wrote:this is a joke plz follow link and buy tool......
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-dig ... 47257.html
Kolten wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:Charge the battery.
Hey, Thanks to all. Ill be sure to take my time on this restore. It my first elite ever and 2nd 2T as well. My first is a DD50 that one is for my girl. We sold our cars to commute since we always in town (very busy).

Thanks for the info you all have given me and thanks to wikispreedia. Ill be sure to make a donation once everthing is squared away :thumbwink:
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The gauging tool had some few more lines than needed not intended for measuring much, the inches and centimeters were accurate though :)
The gauging tool had some few more lines than needed not intended for measuring much, the inches and centimeters were accurate though :)
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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Here is a picture of the goodies I got and a couple pictures of the Elite partially disassembled.
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Thankfully the panels were there but would like to find that under cowl, not complete without one on my ride
Thankfully the panels were there but would like to find that under cowl, not complete without one on my ride
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Elite in the trouble shooting process: <br />-Starter motor turns with starter button yeah!<br />-Tail light turns on when key is on position, brake light turn signals and display light not working yet.  Need to read that manual :idea: <br />-Cleaned and verified functionality of control switches <br />-Using Sym DD resistor, regulator, and battery for tests
Elite in the trouble shooting process:
-Starter motor turns with starter button yeah!
-Tail light turns on when key is on position, brake light turn signals and display light not working yet. Need to read that manual :idea:
-Cleaned and verified functionality of control switches
-Using Sym DD resistor, regulator, and battery for tests
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The goods :)
The goods :)
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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boy you need to do better photo .. hole the boton hafe way down till the green light come on then push the reat of the way down .. or do something cant see munch to fuzzy and the photo do help a lot.. some times youll ask what is this ans we may say a fuzzy kitten because thats what thay look like..

on to other things .. looks like a nice toy you got there ..
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8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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swimmingfree wrote:boy you need to do better photo .. hole the boton hafe way down till the green light come on then push the reat of the way down .. or do something cant see munch to fuzzy and the photo do help a lot.. some times youll ask what is this ans we may say a fuzzy kitten because thats what thay look like..

on to other things .. looks like a nice toy you got there ..
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Dude I know right, the picture quality of my Itouch suxx when used at night and poor lighting. Ill get to re-posting them pics, and take them during the day :idea:
1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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what its 3 am there now i think your 5 hours behind me .. i for got about that
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looking for
se50 crank...

SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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