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Re: 1987 Honda Elite S restore w/ pictures and progress

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Kolten wrote:Tail light turns on when key is on position, brake light turn signals and display light not working yet. Need to read that manual
Some lights do not work unless your ride is running...turn signals...headlight...
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evilone wrote:
Kolten wrote:Tail light turns on when key is on position, brake light turn signals and display light not working yet. Need to read that manual
Some lights do not work unless your ride is running...turn signals...headlight...
Turn signals work off the battery. The headlight and dash lights are alternator drive with the engine running.
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Thanks for clearing that up Bear, i didn't want to run outside just to double check myself.
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Bear45-70 wrote:
evilone wrote:
Kolten wrote:Tail light turns on when key is on position, brake light turn signals and display light not working yet. Need to read that manual
Some lights do not work unless your ride is running...turn signals...headlight...
Turn signals work off the battery. The headlight and dash lights are alternator drive with the engine running.
Got to make quick. Thanks Bear, saves me some reading time, although never hurts too :) you saved evil's a** from going in the cold lol just kidding evil
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evilone wrote:Thanks for clearing that up Bear, i didn't want to run outside just to double check myself.
Evil, I used to live in the M.I. State, I think if their were no state lines Monroe would be apart of Toledo. Nice to know a brotha from M.i. Stay warm :hi:
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My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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Today it's actually close to 60 degrees...34 degrees by tuesday :evil:.
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Did some things for the update:
1. New plug and play wiring for 1987 SE50 to 2005 Sym DD50 engine
-Spliced some new male and female terminals for plug and play:
-Starter Relay, Starter Motor, Alternator, ignition pick up.
*Regulator simple swap out, resistor swap, CDI swap.
2. Colors:
-Bright Idea Yellow
-Classic Grey
3.Changed out engine to DD50
*Everything lined up, shock too, just a mater of bolt to motor to engine mount re-mod
4.Front turn signals
*Oem front turn signals had no lenses so had to put some other ones.
Started first crank :)
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My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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[quote="Kolten"]Did some things for the update:
1. New plug and play wiring for 1987 SE50 to 2005 Sym DD50 engine
-Spliced some new male and female terminals for plug and play:
-Starter Relay, Starter Motor, Alternator, ignition pick up.
*Regulator simple swap out, resistor swap, CDI swap.
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Plug and play wire harness to engine, starter relay, starter motor, alternator, Ignition pick up.
Plug and play wire harness to engine, starter relay, starter motor, alternator, Ignition pick up.
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
1995 Honda CBR600F3
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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Kolten wrote:Did some things for the update:
1. New plug and play wiring for 1987 SE50 to 2005 Sym DD50 engine
-Spliced some new male and female terminals for plug and play:
-Starter Relay, Starter Motor, Alternator, ignition pick up.
*Regulator simple swap out, resistor swap, CDI swap.
3.Changed out engine to DD50
*Everything lined up, shock too, just a mater of bolt to motor to engine mount re-mod
Started first crank :)
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THIS IS HOW THE STOCK ENGINE FAILED.  It was the way I got it.
THIS IS HOW THE STOCK ENGINE FAILED. It was the way I got it.
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Sym DD50 engine mounted
Sym DD50 engine mounted
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Plug and Play made easy
Plug and Play made easy
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1987 Honda SE50 Elite S
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My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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you didnt need to swap out the wire harness or splice into it. all you had to do is use the 87 stator. that way it plugs right in.just use the dd50 mag/flywheel. you can use all the other 87 electornics as it works the same as the dio stuff. so the cdi,regulator,coil..........
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bakaracer wrote:you didnt need to swap out the wire harness or splice into it. all you had to do is use the 87 stator. that way it plugs right in.just use the dd50 mag/flywheel. you can use all the other 87 electornics as it works the same as the dio stuff. so the cdi,regulator,coil..........
Awe shoot, I knew I should have bought a flywheel puller, I just would have have to wait about a week. Instead I got a nice cheap wiring kit. Thankyou for informing me of the stator swap. When I get a FWpuller, do you know if the voltage levels will be affected when I reinstall the original end plugs?
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2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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Kolten wrote:
bakaracer wrote:you didnt need to swap out the wire harness or splice into it. all you had to do is use the 87 stator. that way it plugs right in.just use the dd50 mag/flywheel. you can use all the other 87 electornics as it works the same as the dio stuff. so the cdi,regulator,coil..........
Awe shoot, I knew I should have bought a flywheel puller, I just would have have to wait about a week. Instead I got a nice cheap wiring kit. Thankyou for informing me of the stator swap. When I get a FWpuller, do you know if the voltage levels will be affected when I reinstall the original end plugs?
Are the threads on the FW the same on both dd50 and se50. RH internal male 24mmX 1.00
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2006 Honda NPS50S Ruckus
My Wife's 2005 SYM DD50 660ft 12.79 47mm bore
2008 JCL Gy6 155cc 78Mph Stock bore, +2.2mm Stroke Crank shaft.
2008 Kymco Top Boy Swap Gy6 170cc
2004 Honda Metropolitan Get Engine 60+Mph
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the voltage will be the same. the wattage for the lights, the 87 stator puts out 95watts which is really good plus its a 4 pole vs the dd50 5 pole so little less resistance on the crank. that means it frees up some rpm response. i think the puller should work for both flywheels.
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Any one got a spare complete dio motor? This guy needs one for under 200 shipped
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