Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.
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by eliteguy50 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:56 pm
WilliamK wrote: She said she could get it up to 30mph but she was only 110 pounds. I could only get about 23mph untill I cleaned the carb and added the new muffler.
She did quite a number on it...broken sparkplug cap...lost the airbox cover. I'm enjoying the rebuild though. I may seem dumb but I learn quick.
Unfamiliar with the model but not dumb. If you need parts, there is always the WTB board. Those are common leftover parts from a build or part out.
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by WilliamK » Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:49 pm
got a line on all the parts I need. Just a matter of getting the cash for it all.
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by WilliamK » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:19 am
Ran into a brick wall...my kingdom for a ball hone. My luck, no one around here sells them cept by mail order.
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by Bear45-70 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:24 pm
WilliamK wrote: Ran into a brick wall...my kingdom for a ball hone. My luck, no one around here sells them cept by mail order.
You can
NOT use a ball hone on a 2 stroke, You will just break all the balls on the ports and scar up the cylinder walls and port openings.
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by WilliamK » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:44 pm
what would be your suggestion Bear...brake cyl hone will do the same
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by Bear45-70 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:47 pm
WilliamK wrote: what would be your suggestion Bear...brake cyl hone will do the same
The larger cylinder hone that is like the brake hone. The pads are long enough to straddle the ports.
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by WilliamK » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:02 pm
I have both but the larger one will not colaps enough...going to try to adapt the larger stones to the smaller hone...thanx Bear
Bear45-70 wrote: WilliamK wrote: what would be your suggestion Bear...brake cyl hone will do the same
The larger cylinder hone that is like the brake hone. The pads are long enough to straddle the ports.
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by WilliamK » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:40 pm
here's an update. Modified a brake hone with larger stones. Works great. thanks again Bear. need to finish the honing take a mesurment and see if I can get oversized rings...this is pretty much a see if I can thing, I will be installing BBK later on.
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by WilliamK » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:18 am
I've honed out the cylinder start 1.536"...Honed 1.541". should I get oversized rings or use std rings. I can't find OS rings
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by Mystic » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:20 am
I think std rings would be fine, you can get oversized rings from the honda man
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by WilliamK » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:32 am
thanks mystic...my dealer is closed so I have been worring about the size...that put my mind to rest
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by Bear45-70 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:52 am
WilliamK wrote: I've honed out the cylinder start 1.536"...Honed 1.541". should I get oversized rings or use std rings. I can't find OS rings
Oversized rings require and oversized pistion and visa-versa, so use stock rings.
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by WilliamK » Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:46 pm
stock rings aand gasket set are on order. Will let everyone know how she runs after. Thanks for the help.
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by WilliamK » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:07 am
An update on my progress. While putting everything together I had stripped threads on the block so I had to drill and rethread the crank case. I got it all back together and had a hard time getting it to start. took another compression thes with WOT...still only 75psi. then I noticed fuel/oil dripping by the belt. Blown oil seal and also oil dripping from the oil pump. So...going to do a total tear down and replace all the seals and bearings. Also going to get a BBK for it.
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by WilliamK » Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:21 pm
It's been a while from the last update. Progress so far. Recived a 65cc BBK. I didn't really want to go bigger than that. Installed it with a #88 jet. Put it all together and as of now, it runs great. I won't take it over 35mph till it's broke in but ...wow...what a difference
almost threw me off!
Thanks everyone for your help and info!!!