Best tires ?

[CNI Dawg]

Will I need a metro front brake hub as well or will the Elite fit correctly

Wish there was an easy disk brake conversion for the front.
There is no hard braking / trail braking with the stock brake - just slowing a bit

[bakaracer]

Will I need a metro front brake hub as well or will the Elite fit correctly

Wish there was an easy disk brake conversion for the front.
There is no hard braking / trail braking with the stock brake - just slowing a bit

There is a complete disc brake conversion kit by ncy. I posted that in your other thread. If you don't want to spend$750 for the kit then ebc makes brake shoes for your bike. And yes you can trail brake on these things. That's how I get through the turns faster on my bike. I use the back brake more for speed control mid apex to exit due to the power band hit on these motors. That way I can stay on the gas. If not when you let off and get back on,it will want to break the rear tire loose. So I found using the rear brake mid corner to exit eliminated that and made my mid corner to exit speed faster because I'm already at almost full throttle and my momentum doesn't stop and it doesn't unsettle the suspension from chopping the throttle.

[CNI Dawg]

that's good info, thanks !
I would not have thought of using the rear brake that way

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Found a lot of wheel & tire size info on wikispreedia
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... _Reference

If I read it correctly the Metropolitan wheels 2002 & up will interchange with my 01 elite.
It appears the hub brake drum inside diameter is the same
Doesn't say if the brake drum depth is the same

I'm hoping the hub & spacers from the 01 SA50 will work w/o modification on the Metro wheels

Guess I need to find a set & try them out

[eliteguy50]

Yes, bolt on wheel swap for your elite.

[live dio]

unless you ride a mini or full stroker at sick speeds don't worry about tires!

[CNI Dawg]

It's too late for me....once you've ridden on good tires you are ruined forever

[live dio]

Then again, some people can run any tires and still look good

[CNI Dawg]

Not me....I need all the help I can get !!!

[motormike]

unless you ride a mini or full stroker at sick speeds don't worry about tires!

You stick with that theory, live dio....

Then again, some people can run any tires and still look good

...theywill be pointing at the ambulance saying, "there goes the guy formerly known as live dio....he sure was looking good on those janky tires."

[CNI Dawg]

............ebc makes brake shoes for your bike...........

Am I looking for EBC #333 organic brake shoes with solid friction surface - NOT grooved???

IT looks like the front and read shoes are the same - is that correct ?


I've been running the Vesrah RJL on the race bike but doesn't look like they make a brake shoe for my 2001 SA50


is the 2001 Elite 50SR the same brake shoe as the Honda Metropolitan?

If so, EBC makes sintered brake shoes which should stop better

http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4/ ... Parts.aspx

researching on line makes it look like they use the same shoes for many Honda drum brake applications

[CNI Dawg]

Just called EBC USA in California....

The guy that answered looked it up & said the Metro & 01 Elite 50SR are the same shoes
However.....they do NOT make sintered brake shoes - they are all organic

This is strange
Motorcycle superstore lists EBC shoes for the Metro in both organic & sintered

sintered
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4/ ... =Cart_Item

organic
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/4/ ... =Cart_Item

[eliteguy50]

Am I looking for EBC #333 organic brake shoes with solid friction surface - NOT grooved???

One of the aftermarket companies makes grooved shoes, out of Taiwan I think.

[CNI Dawg]

No sintered shoes at EBC
All are organic with bits of copper

THe 333 shoe is solid
The 333 G shoe is grooved

EBC explained the grooved shoes are made for dispersing water out of the drum area for off road applications

My question is - Which shoe will stop better ?? ( the solid or the grooved shoes)

My thought is the solid shoe has more braking surface but I've been wrong before
The grooved pad may allow heat & gasses a way to better escape thus keeping the shoe in contact with the drum more of the time

Please advise....my brain is aching thinking about this

[Dio89Elite]

It's too late for me....once you've ridden on good tires you are ruined forever

yup agreed. I never really noticed the difference before and let my budget pick my tires, then I happen to get 'sticky' tires for my RZ350 (yes, I know this isn't a lil scoot...) and I've fallen in love with them ever since

I need all the help I can get !!!

me too! =) especially when you ride like me.

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I'm running the S1's. Thanks for sharing info, guys! I have other tires now to look for. =)

*sigh* you guys just made my 'wish' list a bit bigger... metro rims... ebc brakes... new sticky tires...

[CNI Dawg]

How do you like the Michelin S1 tires ?

They are very reasonably priced (about $25 mailorder)