building my first "Sprazz" need help please

Spree-Mart 24/7 · Post by **Spree-Mart 24/7** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:50 pm

Okay so i have a recently rebuilt razz engine and a spree with a bare rear frame im going to make a custom weld for the shock mount but im confused as far as adapting the sprees wire harness work with the razzs wires. anyone done it before that could help?? I can't read the online manual as im on my phone. Some one please help and its a rival razz btw i have a normal razz engine too

66SIX · Post by **66SIX** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:17 pm

If it was me I would just use the Razz wire harness and save myself the problems .
Just a suggestion.

Spree-Mart 24/7 · Post by **Spree-Mart 24/7** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:26 am

66SIX wrote:If it was me I would just use the Razz wire harness and save myself the problems .
Just a suggestion.

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wouldn't i have to rewire the whole front end too?? like horn head light ect. ?
i know someone has done this swap before
any master minds know of it?
but ya 666 i would do that if the front half was bare as well. thanks for thebsuggestion though

Majourlittle · Post by **Majourlittle** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:57 pm

All engines run basically the same. You need to get to a real computer and print out both engine wiring diagrams and match up the corresponding functions. I imagine that the only wires that you will actually have to deal with will be from the magneto and possibly the CDI.

Worst case will be that you will have to create a new plug, best case will be that you have to rearrange some pins in the existing plugs.

66SIX · Post by **66SIX** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:23 pm

Yes you probably will have to rewire a lot of stuff .
Don't be intimidated it looks like a lot of wires but they are just in a small space .
There really isn't that many .
Here is what you will probably need ;
1:soldering gun
2: test wires (2) with clips.
3:heat shrink (harbor frieght $ 3.00 get the assortment )
4: a extra charged battery ( if you got one great if not no problem)
5: if you can get some butt plugs off an old harness as you might have to re-do some of the connectors (don't cut them too short )
also if you have a problem you can disconnect it .
6:wire cutters small
7: some marking tape and a fine point marker (label stuff like what goes where )
8:Patience don't get frustrated ....
Most of the stuff will be ground to the bike , so if you clip on to something metal you should be OK for your negative then connect a test wire to the positive side of the battery
clip it to one side of the horn then ouch the other side with the negitive test wire the horn should beep ( careful it will vibrate in your hand ) or you could just touch the anything metal on the bike and it should beep .
OK now you know the horn works next you need to find the wires comming from the horn button / switch also you might have a problem with the ingnition switch ? unless your going to use the razz switch ? which could also be a problem w/ the locking lineing up ??? on the honda frame .
I have rewired so many bikes but after reading what I just wrote it's starting to confuse me ,I am not the worlds best teacher ...
Bottom line do one thing at a time everything is working off a positive and a negative so if something is ground to the frame that only leaves one wire to turn it on .
I wish you had some pics of your harness ...

Sorry if I confused you ...
Just be patient once you get rolling everything will get easier and easier and if you have the razz wire connectors for your old lights and guages /headlight / it might be easier to adapt the razz connectors and remember the colors probably won't match so label everything .
Oh one more thing don't let the test leads sit on whatever your checking also feel the wires that your checking if they feel hot or warm disconnect right away .