96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Its getting spark, carbs clean as a whistle and getting gas, by starters got good res and works properly, exhaust is good, air cleaner is good.


I'm stuck it just turns over forever. I really have no idea what to even check next.
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Do a compression test?
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Yeah, just waiting for the gauge.

What if the compression's good though? :/
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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compression just above 100...
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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bad plug or gap to big or small..
give it a prim..
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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did you do the test at wot???
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Whats a prim?

and I don't know what wot means

I did the compression test by holding the throttle open and trying to start it.
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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I thought 100 was low? My 84 Aero 80, way different though, is at least 142 - 200.
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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The manual says 114 to 171 PSI. so you are low.

However I think it should run at 100 PSI. Have you tried priming the engine with a shot of gas mixed with oil at a ratio of 31 to 1?
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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compression was right around 114

Haven't tried priming it, can you explain how to do it?
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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xenoz wrote:compression was right around 114

Haven't tried priming it, can you explain how to do it?

Take out the spark plug
squirt a little premix in the hole
put the plug back in

try to start it. :wink:
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Still just turns over
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Is there oil in your crankcase, or an abundant amount on top of your piston?
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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ok so I sprayed some starter fluid in the air intake on the carb and when I choked it with my hand it started right up.

It won't stay running though unless I keep chokin it, so it looks like it IS the by starter?
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Re: 96 elite Wont start, tried everything

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Change the spark plug with a new one.

FYI, you can squirt the priming fuel into the carb or even into the air box inlet.

If the new plug and priming do not work, check the ignition timing.
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