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Since you broke it I'll give you $50. :lol:
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nope sorry
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Autozone will rent you a compression tester you give them 40 and when you bring it back you get the 40 back..
maybe you shod get your dad to help you with this bike.. then youll have a father and sun thing going on and he may spend some money on it ..
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I agree with swimmingfree, you should keep it and have your dad or mom help you fix it. All it takes is some reasearch on this website and a good look at the repair manual. If you seized the piston you can get one for around 20 bucks on ebay with rings etc and gaskets from honda for like 3.00 you just have to search around for the best deals. I know you are young and impatient but once you get it fixed the right way you will be very happy with it. We did try to tell you by derestricting it that it would seize if you didnt follow directions. Basically you needed a larger main jet and an air filter about 10 bucks, if nothing else take the cooling shrouds off and take the bolts out of hte head and take it and hte cylinder off and see what damage you did
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Do you guys think maybe its just got too much oil to gas? because i think my premix wasnt mixed properly and its fouling my plug out.
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Okil69 wrote:Do you guys think maybe its just got too much oil to gas? because i think my premix wasnt mixed properly and its fouling my plug out.

Could be....what does the plug look like?
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Autozone will rent you a compression tester ..we tell us
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Trafficjamz wrote: Could be....what does the plug look like?
well me and dad cleaned it with a piece of sand paper and put it back on and the engine shoots black, oily gas on it.
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how do you mix the gas????
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you should probably hook the oil pump back up, zip tie it open and not premix till you get the issue resolved
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if the oil pump has been un hook it may not work innn more???
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swimmingfree wrote:how do you mix the gas????
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i mix 8:1 8 ounces to 1 gallon
swimmingfree wrote:if the oil pump has been un hook it may not work innn more???
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it was never unhooked
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wwhoooaaa that is way toooo much oil that is your problem your problem right there , no MORE than 4 ounces to a gallon of gas at 32:1. drain the gas, using it for cleaning parts, mix up a new gallon with 4 ounces, pour some in the spark plug hole and then try to start it I bet it runs
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swimmingfree wrote:
if the oil pump has been un hook it may not work innn more???
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it was never unhooked

so you got the oil pump putting oil as well????
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Re: Firing problems.

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swimmingfree wrote:swimmingfree wrote:
if the oil pump has been un hook it may not work innn more???
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it was never unhooked

so you got the oil pump putting oil as well????
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just enough to keep the shaft and stuff lubed.

Mystic wrote:wwhoooaaa that is way toooo much oil that is your problem your problem right there , no MORE than 4 ounces to a gallon of gas at 32:1. drain the gas, using it for cleaning parts, mix up a new gallon with 4 ounces, pour some in the spark plug hole and then try to start it I bet it runs
if i drain the gas could i just mix it with a little bit more gas?
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