89 sa50 wont go over 25-30

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Re: 89 sa50 wont go over 25-30

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I hate to say it but if youre looking for a conspiracy theory youre barking up the wrong tree. You should take it easy and not start calling people you dont know liars. I only tell the truth and I have no time for no lifers.
I said exactly what the man told me who gave me the honda. Now if you like to call him a liar I dont care, but do not insult me.
And the man I got it from is 40+ years old and has ZERO reason to lie to me.
The piston didnt have a hole in it, it had a chunk off of the corner. I wish i had more time to upload pics of the piston. the ring was gone also.
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So now the professional 2 stroke mechanic with factory training and several National Championships and spped records racing 2 strokes know less that you do. Oh and I have children as old as you so the story is still BS! Live with the truth, even if you don't like it.

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I got an idea, go jack someone elses thread. I dont need satire. I didnt say I knew more than you, nor would it matter. Its a 2 stroke, not rocket science.
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damnSA50 wrote:I got an idea, go jack someone elses thread. I dont need satire. I didnt say I knew more than you, nor would it matter. Its a 2 stroke, not rocket science.
No, you need someone smarter than you and when you find him you give him crap because you really are to stupid to learn. Why do you morons come here, can't fix your scooter and when you get told your info is bad, act surprised and hurt? If you want help, shut up and listen and learn, otherwise Image
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I got the honda running good this morning with the help of everyone, minus bear cub, welded a tip to exhaust, replaced the main jet with a 100 that taz sent me, fired right up, acted a little rich so I moved the clip position and leaned it out a little with the adjuster. Now it goes like stink. compression was 160 ish, gap was 28, moved it to 24. Id have to say it goes over 50.
Id like to thank everyone except for bear on this one. It ended up being the jet size, and possible gap, thanks everyone who had helped, seriously!


"No, you need someone smarter than you and when you find him you give him crap because you really are to stupid to learn. Why do you morons come here, can't fix your scooter and when you get told your info is bad, act surprised and hurt? If you want help, shut up and listen and learn, otherwise"

I have 13 years or autocross experience with side drafts and forced induction vehicles. I only run street prep and open modified. From Rx3s with 12a 150% over porting with bridge worked, twin SUs fed by twin turbo setups to EFI Nissan twin turbo 300zxs, Ive put my time in and still continue. I have thousands of witnesses.

bear what do you do now? Sounds like to me youre a washed up has been who can only talk of the days of yesteryear, this is today and now, not what we did 20 years ago. One thing, oh great yesteryear race god, my step father is an official for past 30 years or so at the grand prix races in George Winter park here in st louis, I know smarter, faster, nicer, and better GP racers than you have ever been, and will ever be (hahahah ever be like you will EVER do anything fruitful again). Oh wait thats right you dont help people you just run your mouth. I know why people like you troll the internet, you cant do anything in real life anymore. My 2 7 year old boys have better manners than you, they would tell you to act your age little man. :b2t:

Thanks again for everyone on here, this is why I donate money to this site, for all the help from the right people.
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Ha, I just re read all your "infinite wisdom" you gave me. NOT A SINGLE BIT OF WISDOM! You regurgitated something someone said on 1 post that could be construed as help. other wise ALL 5 post were USELESS. ABSOLUTELY USELESS.
5 out of 5 post helped me NONE. NO HELP at all. So bear take your own advice and shut the front door.

#1 "f you have a BBK install and it is still this sluggish, do a compression test and quit screwing around worrying about rollers and s***. You said yourself the engine is missing."
this was already said by nicer and better people before you, so NO HELP.

#2 "Oh great, you can't get it to run with this setup so you are gonna add a CT intake and an OKO carb. Good luck with that."

What moron doesnt set up his vehicle to be tuned how it will be running in the end. When I build a forced induction motor, I dont run it with out the turbo or supercharger before I install it, IT WOULDNT MAKE ANY SENSE! Lets tune my 12:1 340 hp rotary with the stock carb before I put my SUs on it. Ya thatll fly as my apex seals glue themselves to the rotor. Id hate to have you as my builder.

#3 "I've never seen lack of oil burn a hole in a piston. If that is the story, I call BS!"
For one its not a hole in the piston, it was a chunk off of the corner and missing the top ring. I said this before if you can read you would know this. Sounds like youre use to dealing with liars, I blame the people you know, Im not one and I dont enjoy disrespectful people. If you were here in st louis Youd be singing a different tune is where Ill leave this.

#4 "So now the professional 2 stroke mechanic with factory training and several National Championships and spped records racing 2 strokes know less that you do. Oh and I have children as old as you so the story is still BS! Live with the truth, even if you don't like it.

"Ignorance is the absence of knowledge. Stupidity is the presence of knowledge and the refusal to use it."

I learn from my mistakes, I ask the help of others who are wiser. Never once did I claim or make a claim that I knew more than you about these 50cc engines. Re read and then kick yourself as you will see I said nothing about your "infinite wisdom" until you attacked me. Now I believe youre just an angry troll of a has been yesteryear boatman.

#5 "No, you need someone smarter than you and when you find him you give him crap because you really are to stupid to learn. Why do you morons come here, can't fix your scooter and when you get told your info is bad, act surprised and hurt? If you want help, shut up and listen and learn, otherwise Image "

I bet youre a great teacher. i never said my info was bad nor did I give you "crap" about your "help". Youre the moron here, read all these post you did on this thread. NOTHING HELPED! NOT A SINGLE POST you meandering *. Id add you to my foe list but honestly I enjoy getting a rise out of a trash talking douschbag. This is today, not 20 years ago, or even 2 years ago. If you cant hang with the pack you will be left for dead. And I think youre just now figuring this out. Maybe do like the rest of the dogs and go to the woods and let nature take its course.

now Im off to fast eddies in grafton on my yamaha XJ1100 with the rest of our group. try to have a better day Cub.
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Heres a link to it running before I did the pipe etc. I should have got a video of it before I did the jet. This is a video of just the 100 jet installed. ONLY the 100 jet from taz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcvKo-K1 ... e=youtu.be
It makes it to the "h" in "mph" whatever speed that is.
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I see another hole in a piston in the near future. Because you still have not fixed what cause the first hole, besides the one in your head, dumbass!
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A Pm from the Cub loser.
"To stupid to learn" is what your handle should be.

Tune this some time and then you can tell me how good you aren't.

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I'm gonna laugh my * off when you melt a hole in this piston.

Oh and I will post what the f*** I want on your threads and anyone else and there is a * thing you can do about it dumbass. Geez, like I said to stupid to learn."

Ha, the moron posts a pic of something he has noting to do with. I hate to say it but you had nothing to do with fixing my bike. Ive read posts on you, youre a piece of work. Go give yourself another pat on the back for being a *. keep the satire coming old timer, I understand no one will listen to your pathetic stories in real life so you force them on people who cant stop you.
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you walk your way Ill walk mine.
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You can call me stupid when you own several nation championships and several speed records with a 2 stroke, * even a 4 stroke, until then you really are to stupid for even words.
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Wecome! Little need on either side to flex muscles. Lot of respectable folks here.
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I often grab a screen shot with ctrl-alt print screen, paste into MSPaint and rescale. There's lots of newer ways, yet like a teddy bear, it's something we grew up with. :lol:
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Neat Ill try that, thanks for the help!
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Glad you got her figured out. 15 mph is no fun at all! Wha plug number are you running? I know it is working now but I am just curious. I am using #8 plugs now on everything, to prevent excess heat.
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