Keli or Ruckus variator

Trying to get your Spree/Elite to run, or run better? Post your questions here.

Moderator: Moderator

User avatar
Elite_FiddyS
BMX
BMX
Posts: 38
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:59 am
Location: Merrimack, New Hampshire

Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Elite_FiddyS »

Whats up guys looking into buying a new variator but i dont know which one would be more beneficial a Keli from daywot or just a stock ruckus variator from honda. Pros/cons of the two? Lemme know your opinion.

Thanks a bunch
User avatar
fastplastic
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1085
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Manistee, MI

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by fastplastic »

not a fan of stock ruck var. but that's just me i would look at autotech355 for a prodigy one or scooter assassin venom...
User avatar
martynkim
Board Supporter
Board Supporter
Posts: 2377
Joined: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:22 pm
Location: Tacoma, Washington

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by martynkim »

Ruckus the only way.
Need parts? Parting out Spree Aero and Elite!
What people share about buying from me http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =1&t=15559
PM me with your needs Cheap Parts
eliteguy50
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 3675
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:02 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by eliteguy50 »

fastplastic wrote:not a fan of stock ruck var. but that's just me i would look at autotech355 for a prodigy one or scooter assassin venom...
Please.explain.

The keli is a good bolt on with improved midrange and a little better top speed. The ruckus vari has a bigger boost in top speed but I didn't notice the midrange increase of the keli. The ruckus vari also requires grinding the case for clearance. Both use the stock roller dimensions.
motormike wrote:Errands become adventures.
User avatar
fastplastic
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 1085
Joined: Tue May 11, 2010 7:37 pm
Location: Manistee, MI

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by fastplastic »

I have a stock ruckus I had a polini for ruckus and now i have a (dont remember the name) loved the polini but never had any luck with the stock ruckus one i always lost 2mph...
eliteguy50
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 3675
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:02 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by eliteguy50 »

fastplastic wrote:I have a stock ruckus I had a polini for ruckus and now i have a (dont remember the name) loved the polini but never had any luck with the stock ruckus one i always lost 2mph...
I never saw substantial gains from the oem ruck vari to the polini for ruck vari when on a stock af16. Not worth the extra money imo. It might be worth it for the op though, I don't know how much an all new oem vari costs but a new polini for ruck can be picked up for $100.
motormike wrote:Errands become adventures.
User avatar
Elite_FiddyS
BMX
BMX
Posts: 38
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:59 am
Location: Merrimack, New Hampshire

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Elite_FiddyS »

Thanks a bunch guys! So i take it polini is the way to go? As far as rollers go AF05E i weigh 210 has the stock honda rollers in it now that weigh 9.8-10g looking for a little more bottom end :coolcruise:
eliteguy50
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 3675
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:02 pm
Location: Iowa, USA

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by eliteguy50 »

Go lighter. The Polini will come with 6 or 6.5 IIRC.
motormike wrote:Errands become adventures.
User avatar
swimmingfree
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 3065
Joined: Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:28 pm
Location: mich.

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by swimmingfree »

im running 4grams in my se50 im about 200lb and it get up there quick to a little over 40 my the speedo when i put 8 gram in it wont even do 30 ..
swimmingfree
handicap (dyslexia)
looking for
se50 crank...

SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
User avatar
Elite_FiddyS
BMX
BMX
Posts: 38
Joined: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:59 am
Location: Merrimack, New Hampshire

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Elite_FiddyS »

Well guys I just got my keli vari from daywot. It came with the backing plate that i originally took off my stock vari. Question is should i run it with the plate on or remove it and just use the smaller roller plate from the stock?

Thanks
User avatar
Downsouthdio
Elite
Elite
Posts: 835
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:00 am
Location: Key west

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Downsouthdio »

You talking about the ramp plate..(which holds rollers down)?if the keli came with a ramp plate yes use that one
Honda super dio
Corsa
26mm
Sparrow
User avatar
Downsouthdio
Elite
Elite
Posts: 835
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:00 am
Location: Key west

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Downsouthdio »

I had a keli on my first elite.. While riding over 60mph,the ramp plate snapped in half some how.. Took some decent chunks out the inside of the case.. Scary experience :crazy:..good thing i had the clutch cover off.. The pieces flew out the back :shock:
Honda super dio
Corsa
26mm
Sparrow
Skipper20
BMX
BMX
Posts: 45
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:46 pm
Location: Seattle, WA U.S.A.

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Skipper20 »

Elite_FiddyS wrote:Whats up guys looking into buying a new variator but i dont know which one would be more beneficial a Keli from daywot or just a stock ruckus variator from honda. Pros/cons of the two? Lemme know your opinion.

Thanks a bunch
The Keli variator I got from Daywot gave me a GPS recorded 3.1 mph boost in top speed. I went from 39.4 tops to 42.5. The trade off was a slight decrease in acceleration from a full stop. There is now about 1 second of hesitation before the bike is at full acceleration.

Bill in Seattle :coolcruise:
'87 SE50
User avatar
Downsouthdio
Elite
Elite
Posts: 835
Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 11:00 am
Location: Key west

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Downsouthdio »

Keli is a good bang for your buck
Honda super dio
Corsa
26mm
Sparrow
User avatar
Mystic
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 2140
Joined: Sat May 14, 2011 8:56 pm
Location: Guys, Tennessee

Re: Keli or Ruckus variator

Post by Mystic »

the size of the roller often depends on your exhaust too, even though i have a bbk I still run the stock 9g rollers I have tried heavier and lighter with little to no improvement because of the stock pipe
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
1989 Elite E SB50p
2003 Yamaha Zuma
Post Reply