spree motor swap to elite

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Trafficjamz wrote:now go race this af16 modded spree against supranspree's stage 3 modded spree. :smile:
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This will happen. They're both in the same building, but it was cold here today
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Well the k&n sucks so far. Doesnt want to launch with it on no matter whay carb settings i use. Without one it rips so i need a less restricting air filter also a better exhaust with a better seal should help. I upjetted to a 90 today as well

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Trafficjamz wrote:
eliteguy50 wrote:
cfaulkstlouis wrote: Doesn't have to be an se50 mount, you cut cut an af16 mount too.

The se 50 mount requires cutting only

the af16 mount requires a cut and a reweld to the stopper

I actually used the AF16 mount and did not have to reweld anything. a few cuts and she bolted right on.
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Also I had to swap out the rear break cable, the spree cable was not long enough, so i had to take one off an elite. The rear wheel well needs to be cut a little bit to clear the tire. now im wondering what i should do next. I need to address the air filter issue, what do you guys recommend this will not restrict the air supply. the K&N seems to be suffocating the engine. Also what other performance mods should i do first, Ive been looking online and some people say start with the variator and rollers. what do you guys think?
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Your starving the engine by running it lean. Put a stock filter box back on
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kingkamehameha wrote:Your starving the engine by running it lean. Put a stock filter box back on
I dont think the stock spree one will fit now, and I only have half of the stock Elite airbox, no filter and no cover, other filters i see appear to be the same as my K&N. why would this be restricting air, shouldnt it be allowing more than the stock one?
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Your missing the point. Your running too much air into your carb. The fixed pilot jet cant deliver enough fuel for the mixture to be right. It doesnt work like a efi system where the computer ajusts the fuel map and delivery ratio when you throw that k&n on there. Like i said best results will come from a stock elite airbox
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'86 Honda Spree : taz stage3 w/ mild porting, head milled 0.015", and pulley mod. 2k+ mies on kit
'80 Puch Magnum MKII
'78 Maxi Newport. Polini 64cc case matched, hi comp head, Rito alum crank, delorto 21mm race, etc.
'78 PA50 Hobbit
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The second to last wheelie was starting to look good :thumbwink: :mrgreen:
I wish I could do wheelies. :cry:
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Dio89Elite wrote:

The second to last wheelie was starting to look good :thumbwink: :mrgreen:
I wish I could do wheelies. :cry:

The only thing keeping It from doing a good one is our vaginas. Lol

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'80 Puch Magnum MKII
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'78 PA50 Hobbit
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Well, well, well. Spree is still undergoing changes but i wanted to make an update and see what you guys think. prior to a few days ago, i had the exhaust hooked up without a "gasket" or washer type thing to seal the gap. i felt exhaust coming out of the front under the seat as well as it was beefy sounding. Spree ran awesome like this top end about 42, but i wanted more, so i made a washer to fill the gap and tightened it down. it is not on the inside of the pipe so its not restricting any flow to the muffler however i lost a good 7mph top end. the engine is alot quieter and still picks put and goes but in the long run stock sprees are catching up to me ...phhh, what do you guys think. also wide open throttle around 30mph it kinda bogs down, i have to let off the throttle a little bit to get a nice little boost...is that normal?
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What that leak was doing is leaning out your motor which made it faster but also enters the area of mixture that leads to melted pistons and dead motors. Suggest you do an exhaust pipe clean as suggested in WikiSpreedia.
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