1994 elite 50 sr starting problem!

[lolo123]

got a elite the other day didnt run but looks really good for year and 4 k milage cleaned carb and air box and filter got it running. And runs great once started nothing wrong with it pulls good stops good. but now its really hard to start when cold i replaced the buttefly valve/choke that i had off my other functioning elite cleaned the carb again and still not getting any results. Note that the battery is dead does the battery have to have enough voltage for the butterfly to work on start up. And one other thing the coil is not oem and the plug cap doesnt seat really well on the plug like the factory one does but it doesnt cut out or come off when riding or seem to affect anything. Kinda stuck here thanks

[lolo123]

i meant bystart valve instead of butterfly lol my bad

[Pete M]

Are you twisting the throttle when you attempt to start it?

[lolo123]

Yea cause thats the only way to get it to start and once i can get it to rev out its fine but it has good compression its getting fuel and getting plenty of spark but if a plug is fouled will it not run correctly or not at all.

[abreen89]

Yea cause thats the only way to get it to start and once i can get it to rev out its fine but it has good compression its getting fuel and getting plenty of spark but if a plug is fouled will it not run correctly or not at all.

yes.

[lolo123]

So i guess i will need to get some new plugs and hope thats what it is cause i have looked over everything doesnt make any since

[lolo123]

Put a new plug in nothin. its got a chinese lookin coil and plug wire could it be getting to much spark. Or could it be the reeds?

[Wheelman-111]

Greetings:

The bystarter isn't connected to the DC/Battery at all. It runs like the headlight - straight off the AC Alternator.
The bystarter's "Default" position is "Choke ON" so a faulty bystarter still lets the scooter cold-start fine _UNLESS_ it's broken off and the little brass thingie is stuck in the bottom of its bore - an unlikely possibility.
Reeds do break and a broken reed makes it a real pain to start. Try holding WOT as you kick or crank. If it tries to fire, get a reed block gasket and pull the manifold off to check.

[lolo123]

Ive had reeds off they looked fine doesnt seem to be a leaky gasket Its not a carb issues cause i have to functioning carbs and neither make a difference would put both to factory settings and doesnt do nothing but sputter a little bit and and die

[lolo123]

I guess i could replace all gaskets on manifold can i make my own gaskets? or get from the dealer

[lolo123]

But it wont fire even fire up with starter fluid thats what gets me

[lolo123]

The only thing i havent checked was the exhaust pipe it could be plugged up but had good flow coming out of the pipe when running Thats the only thing i havent gone through would that make it very hard to start

[lolo123]

Figured out what the problem was low compression the rings were so worn that it just had blow bye. Put new rings and gasket. Runs like a new one it will go a little over 40 with the keli vari other than that its completley stock