Corsa+scorpion+9to1

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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Has anyone ran this combo? Im tryin to find out what speeds can be seen with this set up?
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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Greetings:

Never had that exact combo, but 9:1s will be way low for that much lusty Corsa/Scorp power. Even at 11K, my calculations predict a top speed of 64, and you better be sure your Main jet and oiling are generous.
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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I need to shorten these gears up some.. I didnt notice too much of a difference, going from 6.8 to 1 to 7.5's..i still would like to have the cruising high speed but want the take off as well.. Im guessing 8:4:4 is going to be what i need..oh and in using stock clutch and vari..
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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Greetings:

I've never had the good fortune to bolt up a Scorpion, but with PG Short and 7.5s the Corsa has enough power to wheelie and aside from 0-5, take-off isn't an issue. Seems to me that even 8.44s are pretty short for your setup. Have you considered 7.97s?
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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go 8.1 gears
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I would love to go 8to 1.. Where could i find them? Secondary right?going from 6.8to 1 to the 7:5's i didnt notice a big difference.. Just noticed the powerband come on a little earlier
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Downsouthdio wrote:I would love to go 8to 1.. Where could i find them? Secondary right?going from 6.8to 1 to the 7:5's i didnt notice a big difference.. Just noticed the powerband come on a little earlier
Never done any biz with these guys but you can try 'em. Cheap roller weights too. :coolcruise:
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this is with a 90/90 tire an the hp to get to the rpm...
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Downsouthdio wrote:I would love to go 8to 1.. Where could i find them? Secondary right?going from 6.8to 1 to the 7:5's i didnt notice a big difference.. Just noticed the powerband come on a little earlier
Go with 8-1 trust me you will never take it back off. I love my 8-1. It hits low end and top end. Unless uou want 7-1 which is only top end.
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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swimmingfree wrote:this is with a 90/90 tire an the hp to get to the rpm...
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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my corsa+scorpion and 8.44 to 1 has done 68mph (with a slight downhill) but take off is still awesome i have to lean in to it on launch other wise it just wheelies.Even at 30mph when i twist the wrist hard it wants to wheelie
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paulpauly7 wrote:my corsa+scorpion and 8.44 to 1 has done 68mph (with a slight downhill) but take off is still awesome i have to lean in to it on launch other wise it just wheelies.Even at 30mph when i twist the wrist hard it wants to wheelie

perhaps my jetting is too rich and my variator weights are too heavy, because I don't wheelie and I only weigh 185 and i have 9:1 gears with a corsa pg long, and 24oko. I don't get it, I only hit 57mph gps verified at 11,100 rpm after a 1/3 of a mile run, so i'm assuming the variator was maxed out. Suppose I should do the magic marker test to see how high up it goes huh?

If you have too stiff of a contra spring, will it not max out the variator?
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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i have a 1.5 koso spring and a mix of 5g and 5.5g rollers my variator definitly maxs out with the marker pen method oh i have a zx trans to
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Polini corsa
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8.44 to 1
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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What benefits do the zx trans give? Is it worth the extra cash and effort to install? The zx how to guides pictures are gone ):
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Re: Corsa+scorpion+9to1

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i havent run without a zx trans so i couldnt tell you sorry .From what i understand the cvt has more room for cvting lol a wider range of ratios .Lower low gear and higher high gear .Well thats what i thought i could be wrong
86 Nifty Fifty (spree)
ZX disk brake
Kitico 120kmh speedo
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Polini corsa
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Scorpion pipe
8.44 to 1
Michelin s1
71.3mph
92 yz125, 94 crm250
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