Spree belt change
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Spree belt change
To change the belt on a Spree, do I just remove the bell housing on the clutch, or remove the entire clutch? The drive pulley doesn't have to come off, correct?
Also need to buy some impact sockets. What sizes are good to have around for the Spree, especially for the clutch?
Any other tips will be greatly appreciated too. Thanks.
EDIT: When I open it up, I also want to clean up any dust in the clutch too.
Also need to buy some impact sockets. What sizes are good to have around for the Spree, especially for the clutch?
Any other tips will be greatly appreciated too. Thanks.
EDIT: When I open it up, I also want to clean up any dust in the clutch too.
1985 Honda Spree
- patthesoundguy
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Re: Spree belt change
Get a can of brake clean to clean everything up, DO NOT USE COMPRESSED AIR! Pull the cover and pull the drive pulley off, and pull the driven pulley and clutch assembly off. You are going to have to make sure the two halves of the clutch pulley can moves proper, they split apart with a spring that keeps tension on the belt. Get a small wodden wedge or small piece of wood and jam it in between the two pulley sheaves, slide the clutch on with the belt on it. If you don't separate the two halves of the pulley the belt won't have enough clearance to slide past the case when you install the clutch. Then make sure the pulley sheaves are split apart enough so there is enough slack on the belt to install the outer half of the drive pulley with out getting it stuck between the two pulley halves otherwise you will screw up the splines on the shaft when you tighten the nut down. Be very careful when it comes to the drive pulley installation. Pull out the wood and spin the whole assembly and make sure that the belt ride properly in both pulleys. If there is something I left out or if someone has a trick or two please feel free to chime in. If you don't already have the new belt get an AX24 1/2" wide belt it will be good for a couple of MPH on the top end. I like to put a little dollop of synthetic brake grease in the two points where the starter gear spins in the case so the starter gear doesn't wear out the holes in the case and it won't bind up and take more power to start the scooter. If you don't have impact sockets in the right sizes which I think are 17 and 14 mm I'm sure regular sockets will work without busting apart, because the nuts shouldn't be that tight.
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Re: Spree belt change
Impact socket sets are not expensive at all, so you might as well get all the common sizes in both SAE and metric. Check Harbor Freight. (like http://www.harborfreight.com/37-piece-3 ... 68011.html)
Re: Spree belt change
Alright, thanks guys. I appreciate it.
Still waiting on the belt I already paid for. Starting to wish I'd bought one at the parts store.
Still waiting on the belt I already paid for. Starting to wish I'd bought one at the parts store.
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Re: Spree belt change
Good point, I keep forgetting about harbour freight and how much cheaper shipping for you guys in the US compared to Canada.Lift Kit wrote:Impact socket sets are not expensive at all, so you might as well get all the common sizes in both SAE and metric. Check Harbor Freight. (like http://www.harborfreight.com/37-piece-3 ... 68011.html)
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84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
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85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
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85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
Re: Spree belt change
Just finished and rode a few miles. All of the warnings had me nervous, especially when I saw the small area for the splines. Took my time and was very careful to hand tighten only before finishing with the impact driver. The old belt and wood came out, so I had to gently tap the new belt down to spread the sheaves. Used a 1/4" extender and a rubber mallet.
Aside from some belt dust, nothing was terribly dirty. It cleaned up with the brake cleaner as you said. The bell is smooth as are the pads. Perhaps I should've roughed them up? I read an old post where someone said they used sand paper on the pads.
There's still a slight chatter from a stop, but much of it went away after a few miles of stop and go. It's been so long since I rode it that I don't remember if a little chatter is normal from a stop, plus I weigh 200+ now.
Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Aside from some belt dust, nothing was terribly dirty. It cleaned up with the brake cleaner as you said. The bell is smooth as are the pads. Perhaps I should've roughed them up? I read an old post where someone said they used sand paper on the pads.
There's still a slight chatter from a stop, but much of it went away after a few miles of stop and go. It's been so long since I rode it that I don't remember if a little chatter is normal from a stop, plus I weigh 200+ now.
Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: Spree belt change
Glad to hear you are out riding again
I would rough up the clutch pads a bit, just to take the glaze off. I'd also take a little 220 grit sandpaper and maybe deglaze the inside of the clutch bell and brake clean it again. wait on it a while because like you said a lot of the chatter seemed to go away, maybe it will sort itself out
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85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
84 Spree stock
84 Spree Dio AF18E MHR Cylinder Arrow Pipe 28mm OKO
80 Express, 47mm DR BBKit, Weak Ends Intake, Boyesen Dual stage reeds, 19mm Delorto carb, MLM pipe
79 Express
85 Aero 80 stock
84 elite 125 stock
Re: Spree belt change
So is a little chatter normal from a start? I don't remember.
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Re: Spree belt change
Greetings:
Chatter suggests an out-of-round clutch bell. Live with it, re-machine if you can find a small-enough brake drum lathe, or buy a new one. Probably it does no harm beyond Annoyance.
Chatter suggests an out-of-round clutch bell. Live with it, re-machine if you can find a small-enough brake drum lathe, or buy a new one. Probably it does no harm beyond Annoyance.
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Re: Spree belt change
Update:
I just finished roughing up the clutch pads and bell housing. The chatter is completely gone now!
Thanks for all of the input guys. I really appreciate it.

I just finished roughing up the clutch pads and bell housing. The chatter is completely gone now!
Thanks for all of the input guys. I really appreciate it.
1985 Honda Spree

