Leaky Flanges (We don' need no STEENKIN' Flanches)

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Leaky Flanges (We don' need no STEENKIN' Flanches)

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Greetings:

Paraphrased from the Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

So I was replacing my weather-checked 2008 Pirelli last weekend. Removal of the seat bucket revealed the unsightly oil-spray indicating yet another exhaust flange leak. I thought I'd fixed that with a new gasket and careful torque wrench application, but the mist was undeniable. I think I found why:
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The pic shows the PG Short flange after about 15 minutes of sanding with a dead-flat block. The bright spot at the rim of the exhaust header - see around 11 o'clock - represents a high spot, probably welding schmutz. The dark is a recessed patch of the flange. What I think happens is that the material distorts just a little when they robot-weld the flange to the pipe, and for the cost they get per pipe they don't bother planing that back flat at the PhonGeer factory.

Re-installed, but it'll be a few days before I find out if Flash has regained continence of its Precious Scooterly Fluids.
That one was paraphrased from Dr. Strangelove...
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Post by paulpauly7 »

you could lie it flat (sanded flange down) heat it and give it a few taps from the other side then resand.
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I use the belt sander in a vice method for planing the flanges.
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Greetings:

I finished the job by hand and got a pretty flush mating surface, but your suggestions would have economized the elbow grease. I have a Zerk fitting on my olecranon.
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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

I finished the job by hand and got pretty flush...
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Wheelman-111 wrote:I finished the job by hand and got a pretty flush mating surface, but your suggestions would have economized the elbow grease. I have a Zerk fitting on my olecranon.
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Greetings:

I second Graphite's post and add this:
I put a thick washer under the right exhaust nut-just to support my useless analog CHT sender. Not surprisingly it leaked on the left side.
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hi wheeman. So you got a kickback on your funny bone? :lol:
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