Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
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Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Need help! I was at a stop light yesterday and once the light turned green I went, then my bike shut off. I found out that my oil plug came off. I bolted it back on but now my bike won't start. I checked my spark plug and it's good, checked my vacuum and carb and they're all fine. It starts sometimes for only like 2-3 seconds then dies again. I can't even try to keep it alive with the throttle. Any thoughts?
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Btw, does anyone know what's the measurement of a stock SYM DD50 shock from hole to hole? Thanks guys.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
compression test is now needed
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Greetings:
Pauly's simple, quick diagnostic test is the right call. When the plug came out, the engine was inhaling and exhaling a TON of ambient air. Without the cooling effect of the fuel mist, the top end can overheat in just a few seconds, cooking your bore/ring interface and reducing compression to levels below combustion.
Pauly's simple, quick diagnostic test is the right call. When the plug came out, the engine was inhaling and exhaling a TON of ambient air. Without the cooling effect of the fuel mist, the top end can overheat in just a few seconds, cooking your bore/ring interface and reducing compression to levels below combustion.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Empty the carb out via the bolt on the bowl, ensure its refilled, then kick to the high heavens for a while. Same thing happened to one of my first builds. I was so excited to use a pump plug/blank, and took off with out using something to hold it in. I got about 2 blocks and found the plug near my engine mount. I had a heck of a time getting it to run again, but after draining the bowl and turning my kicker leg into a wind mill she fired up and stayed on. It was doing exactly like you're describing. It'll start for a few seconds but not well and will die shortly after.
Doing a compression test can't hurt, just be sure to use a good tester.
Doing a compression test can't hurt, just be sure to use a good tester.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Alright, I'll try to check it out tomorrow or sometime this week hopefully. Real busy at work and by the time I get home it'll be time to go to sleep again. Thanks guys! I'll keep you folks updated on what's happening.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Found out what my problem was. Thetes a scratch on my cyclinder and piston and the top piston ring was stuck where the line was. Bottom ring was okay though. I free'd the top ring and used a piece of sandpaper to open up where it got stuck in to ensure that the ring moves freely and now it seems fine. I was gonna try to put it back together but it was getting late and I didn't have my honda bond cause a friend borrowed it a few days ago but I'm going to pick it up from him after I finish work. Do you think it's still runnable?
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Found out what my problem was. There's a scratch on my cyclinder and piston and the top piston ring was stuck where the scratch was. Bottom ring was okay though. I free'd the top ring and used a piece of sandpaper to open up where it got stuck in to ensure that the ring moves freely and now it seems fine. I was gonna try to put it back together but it was getting late and I didn't have my honda bond cause a friend borrowed it a few days ago but I'm going to pick it up from him after I finish work. Do you think it's still runnable?
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
It looks to me like something got sucked up into the cylinder through the transfer port and hung on to the side of the piston on the way up. You better find out what it was. You can't run that like it is.
Needs a re-bore and new parts.
Needs a re-bore and new parts.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Greetings:
What are you HondaBonding?
I recommend you find what ever caused that scratch.
If you put it back together as is with a little lube oil, it should start and run for at least several minutes.
What are you HondaBonding?
I recommend you find what ever caused that scratch.
If you put it back together as is with a little lube oil, it should start and run for at least several minutes.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Yeah I'm gonna clean out the block. I use honda bond to reseal when I reassemble the bore.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
You probably sucked something up when the plug came undone. That's so unfortunate but at least you figured it out quick!
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Greetings:
Hondabond on the cylinder base gasket? Or the case halves? Surely not the head gasket?
Hondabond on the cylinder base gasket? Or the case halves? Surely not the head gasket?
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
Yeah the base gasket. The head comes with that rubber o ring.
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Re: Bike won't start after oil plug comming off while riding
That's a gouge from a foreign body right there. There is a nice ding or two in the top of that piston. Even if you honed that up a bunch you will have basically no compression. For what you would pay to fix that cylinder I bet a new top end would be the right fix. I would be digging around in that crank case to find what ever did that. Maybe vacuum it all out.
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