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What would this do?

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If you take off the intake manifold and reed valves, there is a split going into the crankcase. Would removing the split making one entrance into the crankcase instead of two give you better crankcase breathing? Could it be bad for the engine?

Both my SE50 and NH80 have this split so I assume a spree would as well.
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Any idea on this? I did this an now my NH80 won't run properly. Want to know if I need a new case or not. :roll:
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i always looked at it, but never dared to try it. try upjetting..
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MySpree wrote:i always looked at it, but never dared to try it. try upjetting..
I know the thing about removing the oil pump and changing the crankcase volume, but this seems like such a small change and right at the intake manifold.

When I pour a little oil in the crankcase, it runs pretty good for a while, then dies. I have an OKO 24mm carb on it with a 100 and 118 main jet. Neither of which gets it running. The slow jet is 42 I think.

My advice: don't do it, lol.

Why would it work with oil in the crankcase?
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i guess that makes the case volume go up.
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Post by Kenny_McCormic »

split the case and put a bead of allumiloy in there to up the volume. that should get ya going again
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I think I am going to get a used crankcase instead. I am also going to rebuild the bottom end due to some piston slap I am getting at idle. (I have already done the top end).

What all should I replace? Crank bearings and what else?
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bearings and all seals.
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If you're getting piston slap, check your rod bottom bearing. That may be out, and is difficult to replace (most guy buy a new or good used part instead.)

Not sure what removing that web would do... you would still have the restriction at the reeds so I doubt it would help much. It would definately impact the structure of the case, though. Better time spent finding a larger reed valve assembly for your engine.
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noiseguy wrote:If you're getting piston slap, check your rod bottom bearing. That may be out, and is difficult to replace (most guy buy a new or good used part instead.)

Not sure what removing that web would do... you would still have the restriction at the reeds so I doubt it would help much. It would definately impact the structure of the case, though. Better time spent finding a larger reed valve assembly for your engine.
Why is it difficult to replace the rod bearing? Are the two parts of the crankshaft pressed together or something like that?
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Post by MySpree »

yeap, you need a press made to take it apart, i made additions on a lathe that fit on the press at my dads shop so i can change them, at this moment the press isnt hooked up since they moved shops, but it should be up soon.
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Taking it apart with a press should be straightforward. When you get it apart, you have to get it back together straight. That's the part that I'm not clear on how you do... If anyone can fill me in on that part, I'd be interested...

Did you make a fixture that holds the crank halves in place (cocentric) while you press them together with the rod?
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