it just died,now it won't start

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:12 pm

hi spree freinds, i hope you can steer me in the right direction. i got a 1985 spree i was riding yesterday at around 28mph or so and it seemed like the back tire locked up and the motor shut down. i waited a few seconds hit the starter button and it started right up. it was running go til last night it did the same thing, now it will not start. it turns over ok i'm going to check for spark. any idea's. thank frank

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:54 pm

Bike ran lean from something, soft seized, second seizure did enough damage to kill compression. If an engine EVER locks up YOU DONT run it till you figure out why and correct the problem.

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:48 pm

so you think it's just a top end problem, like rings. or somthing worse.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:09 pm

Probably rings, possible overbore or new jug+piston, would have o pull down and ifnd out. But first try this old trick, put some oil in the plughole (couple tbsp of 30 weight or similar) see if it runs, if it does rev it a dozen times on the stand shut it down and try to restart, if it restarts your a lucky * and the rings just got stuck. Make sure you air filter and everything is ok.

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:17 am

thanks i'll give that a try. with my luck i'm going to need everything. i'll let you know, thanks

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:12 pm

we tryed puting oil in the head. when we tryed to turn it over it bearly cranked over. it seemed to have good compression at that time . i think i'll see if i can find a compression gauge. what should it be? i price a piston and rings around $60.00. they said to get the over sized piston by .05. do i have to bore the jug to fit the piston. thanks for the help.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:35 pm

You dont need oversize unless its real bad in here. You put too much oil in, crank is for a few minute without the plug in and try again.

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:40 pm

after i pulled the plug oil and blow the oil out. put it back together still no start. so i guess it piston and rings? the honda dealer i called said they could not get a stock piston and rings is he just to lazy to look them up.

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:17 pm

Lazy, you need to take it apart to see what will be needed.

frank63 · Post by **frank63** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:02 am

yea lazy i know, i'm going to take it apart this weekend. thanks for your help,i'll let you know how i make out. thanks again

mopedman · Post by **mopedman** » Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:09 am

yea there just lazy... you have to go up there and make them look it up, unless the discontinued them yesterday