finally located a motor to swap in

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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Post by burnt_toast »

just saw that se big bore.. wow anyone try one of those? what kind of speeds. I might recommend that to my mechanic friend.
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burnt_toast wrote:just saw that se big bore.. wow anyone try one of those? what kind of speeds. I might recommend that to my mechanic friend.
Should be as fast as a dio if you put gears in it (now that we know you can take a complete set of dio trans guts and drop them in).
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Post by PimpinSpree »

anyone know the bore of that. and whats the reason you can't used dio bores? the case is too small and needs machined?
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That engine swap is alot of work and the bore kit is useless unless you can change the gear ratio, start off with the right engine and go from there.
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maddog wrote:That engine swap is alot of work and the bore kit is useless unless you can change the gear ratio, start off with the right engine and go from there.
Your a dumbass who cant read, its been confirmed you can drop a complete dio gear set (all 3 shafts with whatever gears you want) in a SE50 block.
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maddog wrote:That engine swap is alot of work and the bore kit is useless unless you can change the gear ratio, start off with the right engine and go from there.
and not any more work than any other motor swap :roll:

And just because top speed isn't effected by the bore kit, it would still be nice to have a ton of power on the bottom end
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Post by PimpinSpree »

so. ive got my motor coming. I ended up ordering the bore kit, variator, 8.4 gears, and 1k clutch springs



am i gonna need to run premix?
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It would be a good idea, order a oil pump plug, if you run the pump dry the motor will trash itself.
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ya but thats true with any motor.... I probably will run premix just to have one less thing to worry about going wrong, but would i absolutly have to?
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I would get a pump plug and run 32:1 premix on any bore kit, 25:1 if i got over 80cc.
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whats a pump plug? I can't just cap off the line going into the carb/intake manifold thingy

will it screw everything up if i just empty the tank out?
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Pump plug: big hunk of metal that replaces the oil pump for premix use.
If oil is not constantly run through the pump while its turning it will seize up and trash the gear drive, this will fill the engine with metal shaving and destroy it rather quickly. You can also simply remove the pump and grind the teeth off the gear and then some and plug the barbs off (sometimes the crank seal off the pump will go bad and the engine will leak through there).
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Post by PimpinSpree »

so where do i get one of these pump plugs??



also, where can i buy a kickstand to do my swap?
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Post by Kenny_McCormic »

PimpinSpree wrote:so where do i get one of these pump plugs??



also, where can i buy a kickstand to do my swap?
VTcycles should be able to sell ya one. IDK, ask a Hawaiian.
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Post by PimpinSpree »

i can't get on that stupid hawaii forums. My account has been awaiting activation for 3 weeks now.

im gonna make a thread about the kickstand, somebody should know. Im worried if i buy on it might be too tall or too short or somthing
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