cylinder and head leaking

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filthyfingers
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cylinder and head leaking

Post by filthyfingers »

my dumbass bolted on one of the four bolts too tight and it broke, the screw broke right on the case. when i start it up i feel air shooting out next to were its missing the bolt. so question is can i put on more gaskets or even some metal to metal sealant stuff to keep the seal? right now im thinking the worst and its trashed.. btw its off a 2001 elite s. im all bummed out
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Post by losthope »

you have to pull it apart and drill and tap it. get a new bolt and torq it properly
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Post by keithw »

If you are lucky when you take it apart you can get the broken bit out and the threads on the case won't be buggered. The torque spec for these is like 7 ft/lbs, not a bunch. I use a 1/4" drive ratchet handle and can get them plenty tight.

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Let's give it a try, how hard could it be?
Kenny_McCormic
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Post by Kenny_McCormic »

An experienced mechanic should be able to get it out for you.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
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Post by gobucks »

if there is any of the bolt sticking out when you take the head off, then go to auto zone and rent a stud remover, this thing saved my butt by getting a head bolt out of a ford engine that i was doing the head gasket on.
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Post by mousewheels »

1) Since the bolt was not seized in position, it will should take very little torque to remove. If there's a bit sticking out after you remove the cyl, cut a slot with a Dremel tool mounted up with a cutoff wheel. Align your cut tangent to the bore. That way if you slip or cut too deep (into the case) there will be no leak path past the gasket. Then just use a screwdriver.

Note: Putting a slot on the broken bolt will make it difficult to start the drill part of the drill/tap path. If the slot does not work see next idea

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2) Consider checking with an experienced welder. They often can get broken bolts and studs out without thread damage.
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Post by filthyfingers »

okay, i took it all apart and found out that it broke off right under the case so nothings sticking out :evil: . i'll try to drill it out and put a helicoil insert into it and that should hopefully be it. i'll try to get pictures just incase this happens to anyone else.
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Post by DorkoElite303 »

....you could just put it on the sells forum. or put it on ebay and let all of us fight for it:-)
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Post by Kenny_McCormic »

Drill and easy out.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
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