se50 or pre '94 sa50?

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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se50 or pre '94 sa50?

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se50s or pre '94 sa50 - Which engine would be more desired stock? For performance? I know neither of them are the best.
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Although they can be made fast it isnt really worth it.
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88-93 sa50 is the same motor as the SE50, both motors worth about the same.
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Kenny_McCormic wrote:Although they can be made fast it isnt really worth it.
ive kinda figured, the money i saved by getting an se50 i had to spend on buying the stock dio gears

although i would have bought a dio if i could have found one
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I think I'm going the same route as you. I'm looking for a little SE50 myself. Turn it to a communiter for my little sister. Which mods are you doing to do besides the gear changes???
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I have noticed many threads about modding the se50. If the pre 94 sa50 is the same engine, why does no one do the same to them as they do the se50?
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teeoce wrote:I have noticed many threads about modding the se50. If the pre 94 sa50 is the same engine, why does no one do the same to them as they do the se50?
most people just call them SE50's.
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Swap the gears, install a high speed pulley kit, check the exhaust header for a washer and clean out any carbon buildup form the exhaust port, this will get you to 45.
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Dac wrote: most people just call them SE50's.
ya, i think mines actually an sa50 lx. but it makes it confusing calling it an sa50 cuz everyone would think dio


as for what im doing

variator, 8.4 gears, contessa big bore, drilled exhaust and a k&n filter

I doubt id gain much spending any extra money


i retrospect i would have just done the 9.1 gears and variator and no big bore. less mess and less money and will go about as fast as you need to on a scooter
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PimpinSpree wrote:
Dac wrote: most people just call them SE50's.
ya, i think mines actually an sa50 lx. but it makes it confusing calling it an sa50 cuz everyone would think dio


as for what im doing

variator, 8.4 gears, contessa big bore, drilled exhaust and a k&n filter

I doubt id gain much spending any extra money


i retrospect i would have just done the 9.1 gears and variator and no big bore. less mess and less money and will go about as fast as you need to on a scooter
How much is your top speed? YOu know they made a performance exhaust for those 65cc kits. REALLY REALLY rare.
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i havn't installed it yet. im hoping for 60+ i had a chance to buy the exhaust but i passed. I would have looked cool but i don't think i would have gained any performance over a drilled stocker
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Kenny_McCormic wrote:Swap the gears, install a high speed pulley kit, check the exhaust header for a washer and clean out any carbon buildup form the exhaust port, this will get you to 45.
Has anyone reported success yet in putting 9:1 gears into the SE50/early SA50 case?

I remember an earlier thread on the attempt to put in Dio gears, but don't recall the poster coming back with any results.

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Clivester wrote:
Kenny_McCormic wrote:Swap the gears, install a high speed pulley kit, check the exhaust header for a washer and clean out any carbon buildup form the exhaust port, this will get you to 45.
Has anyone reported success yet in putting 9:1 gears into the SE50/early SA50 case?

I remember an earlier thread on the attempt to put in Dio gears, but don't recall the poster coming back with any results.

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Yeah...I think three people have done it so far. Maybe 4 engines have them.
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