variator pulley...

SprEE*MP* · Post by SprEE*MP* » Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:44 pm

Why wont the front variator pulley of a dio or other, fit in a spree?

Clivester · Post by **Clivester** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:45 pm

The crankshaft has a different profile.

Clive.

SprEE*MP* · Post by SprEE*MP* » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:24 pm

bigger or smaller?

Kenny_McCormic · Post by **Kenny_McCormic** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:34 pm

Its all different, best way would be to design and machine a new one, several have discussed this, none have attempted yet.

SprEE*MP* · Post by SprEE*MP* » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:32 pm

SOMEBODY DO IT!!!!!!!

devenex · Post by **devenex** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:29 am

What about the elites that basically have spree engines?

Don't they have variable pulleys? And if so, shouldn't the crank fit in a spree engine?

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:36 am

devenex wrote:What about the elites that basically have spree engines?

Don't they have variable pulleys? And if so, shouldn't the crank fit in a spree engine?

oh dude! the Pal!

i totally forgot about that.

dude, someone just has to tear apart a pal variator and see if it will fit in a spree. if it dose, thats going to break some huge ground.

keithw · Post by **keithw** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:14 am

BTDT, I've got a Pal and a Spree both. The Pal pulley doesn't fit the Spree. The crankshaft end is different. If you could find an entire Pal engine it should bolt right in.

I haven't torn them apart to mix and match the parts but I think the crankshaft and the side cover would need to be swapped.

The Pal is still a moped class scooter, 25-30 mph top end. What the variable pulley gets you is more pull off the line.

keithw

devenex · Post by **devenex** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:08 pm

Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:01 pm

devenex wrote:Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

yeah but if it requires to tear apart the block, get a new crank and a pulley for a bike that is hard to find, why not just get a good motor and build that up.

i mean, dont get me wrong im all about making the spree faster, but thats just unrealistic.

keithw · Post by **keithw** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:02 pm

devenex wrote:Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

Yes, I modified the pulley on my Pal. With that and the engine mods I have seen 45 mph. Normally about 40, still fiddling with it.

Just picked up a second Pal today. we'll see how that one goes.

keithw

burnt_toast · Post by **burnt_toast** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:46 pm

do I really have to say it?

if you're going to swap something into a spree, make it worthwhile and go dio

Unless you can find a PAL block dirt cheap, dio swap just makes more sense even for lower speeds.

SprEE*MP* · Post by SprEE*MP* » Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:18 pm

Dio's are expensive

keithw · Post by **keithw** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:05 pm

Pals are miserably hard to find as they are JDM and only a hand full ever came to the states.

keithw

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:07 pm

keithw wrote:Pals are miserably hard to find as they are JDM and only a hand full ever came to the states.

keithw

yeah, finding a Pal would be harder then finding a dio by a long shot.

BTW Keithw, if you where ever to part out one of your pals you could sell the plastic alone for a good amount of money on the hawaii forums. i have seen a full pal body set go before and it was a few hundred.