u.s. to dio trans conversion
Moderator: Moderator
u.s. to dio trans conversion
I have posted in the past how easy it is to convert your stock elite-s trans to a true japan dio, don't know why the michigan boyz didn't jump on this as the only restriction the japan dio had was the cdi because the u.s. engine block was milled smaller, got my parts from vy cycles a long time ago, post if you are interested, dio trick of the trade= shhheee don't tell nobody 
some people dream of speed, i own your dreams!
- scooterwerx
- Elite

- Posts: 892
- Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:43 pm
- Location: redlands, ca
- steffen707
- Elite

- Posts: 910
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:41 am
- Location: Central, WI
I wanna know! I almost bought a dio engine from the U.K. Till I foiund out shipping was 130 british pounds. Ugh! I want the bigger rear pulley!
87 Honda Spree,
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
from what i understand you can set up a "zx" trans thats the same as the real japanese dio. but overall the American one is better because its easier to find parts and tune.jonsteffen wrote:I wanna know! I almost bought a dio engine from the U.K. Till I foiund out shipping was 130 british pounds. Ugh! I want the bigger rear pulley!
"Its not what you ride, its that you ride"
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
- burnt_toast
- Veteran OG

- Posts: 3469
- Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:00 pm
- Location: Atlanta, GA
exactly right.Dac wrote:from what i understand you can set up a "zx" trans thats the same as the real japanese dio. but overall the American one is better because its easier to find parts and tune.jonsteffen wrote:I wanna know! I almost bought a dio engine from the U.K. Till I foiund out shipping was 130 british pounds. Ugh! I want the bigger rear pulley!
projects galore 
- steffen707
- Elite

- Posts: 910
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:41 am
- Location: Central, WI
What is a "ZX" trans?Dac wrote:from what i understand you can set up a "zx" trans thats the same as the real japanese dio. but overall the American one is better because its easier to find parts and tune.jonsteffen wrote:I wanna know! I almost bought a dio engine from the U.K. Till I foiund out shipping was 130 british pounds. Ugh! I want the bigger rear pulley!
And i'm fine with keeping my engine, trans castings, All I want is the rear pulley. More acceleration please!
87 Honda Spree,
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
you know your clutch is also a pulley system? it opens and closes just like the front pulley.jonsteffen wrote:What is a "ZX" trans?Dac wrote:from what i understand you can set up a "zx" trans thats the same as the real japanese dio. but overall the American one is better because its easier to find parts and tune.jonsteffen wrote:I wanna know! I almost bought a dio engine from the U.K. Till I foiund out shipping was 130 british pounds. Ugh! I want the bigger rear pulley!
And i'm fine with keeping my engine, trans castings, All I want is the rear pulley. More acceleration please!
The ZX trans is fancy talk for front clutch and rear pulley. However its harder to tune and harder to find parts. you better off keeping the system you have now and just upgrading the pulley.
"Its not what you ride, its that you ride"
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
- steffen707
- Elite

- Posts: 910
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:41 am
- Location: Central, WI
WOAH, wait, DIO trans had the clutch in the front and the variator in the rear?
Yeah I don't need that per say, but I do want the bigger pulley.
Yeah I don't need that per say, but I do want the bigger pulley.
87 Honda Spree,
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
im not 100% on that, but i know its really weird.jonsteffen wrote:WOAH, wait, DIO trans had the clutch in the front and the variator in the rear?
Yeah I don't need that per say, but I do want the bigger pulley.
if you just want a bigger pulley you can get that no problem. VTcycles has good ones for a very reasonable price.
"Its not what you ride, its that you ride"
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
- steffen707
- Elite

- Posts: 910
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:41 am
- Location: Central, WI
wait, they have aftermarket rear pulleys at vtcycles? The pulley that is connected to the clutch?
I thought all they had were front pulley variators?
I thought all they had were front pulley variators?
87 Honda Spree,
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
- burnt_toast
- Veteran OG

- Posts: 3469
- Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:00 pm
- Location: Atlanta, GA
what the hah this is misleadingjonsteffen wrote:WOAH, wait, DIO trans had the clutch in the front and the variator in the rear?
Yeah I don't need that per say, but I do want the bigger pulley.
all "zx trans" is a larger REAR pulley/dio style
if you want acceleration tune for it! stock rear pulley is plenty for this, run stiff springs light rollers and big bore, nets you all the accel you'd want garanz
projects galore 
- steffen707
- Elite

- Posts: 910
- Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:41 am
- Location: Central, WI
No, I want all the accel possible. This means jap dio rear pulley and different belt and an upgraded torque drive.
If they didn't put them on hopped up race scooters, I wouldn't buy one, but I don't care about going over 50mph. I want to zip to 50mph as fast as possible.
If they didn't put them on hopped up race scooters, I wouldn't buy one, but I don't care about going over 50mph. I want to zip to 50mph as fast as possible.
87 Honda Spree,
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
XX Yamaha YSR50
92 Yamaha Jog -> Stock.
05 Kymco Super 9-> My cruiser
xx Honda Gyro -> Man I gotta fix that.
98 Honda Elite S -> corsa, pg long, 24mm oko, ct chrome, ZX trans w/ ruckus variator, trailtech vapor gauges
- burnt_toast
- Veteran OG

- Posts: 3469
- Joined: Sat Jul 31, 2004 8:00 pm
- Location: Atlanta, GA
125cc stroker + stock gearingjonsteffen wrote:No, I want all the accel possible. This means jap dio rear pulley and different belt and an upgraded torque drive.
If they didn't put them on hopped up race scooters, I wouldn't buy one, but I don't care about going over 50mph. I want to zip to 50mph as fast as possible.
all the accel you'd ever need garanz haha
projects galore 