Greetings:
The engine is 1987 Aero AF05E. Polini 47 piston/cylinder kit. NO porting done anywhere in the engine/cases. Running a new K&N filter on the stock carb, cleaned-up intake manifold, 0.5mm carbon reeds. New Leo Vinci 4447 exhaust.
I'm still sorting out variator/contra/clutch springs following Malossi 16/32 gear installation. Final ratio 7.83~:1
The mysterious Polini kit jet appeared and measured just a hair bigger than the genuine Keihin 88 I just acquired. I installed an 90-ish (Home-drilled) main jet last night, thinking a size bigger would be a good starting point. Jet needle is in the middle groove (of 3). I'll check the plug tonight.
It's not surging, but there's a noticeable sag in the power at half-throttle going about 30 MPH. Hard to tell if that's a gearing issue with variator upshift or if the engine's just not making good power there. I checked for acceleration after partial release from full throttle - found none. This suggests it's not too lean, despite the open filter and freer-flowing pipe.
Q: What next? Jet a size up or a size down? I have a 94 and that K88 ready.
Aerophile Jetting Question
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Aerophile Jetting Question
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"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Check that. Main jet is WOT, the needle jet is more responsible for mid-throttle response. Try raising it up a notch.
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Needling?
Greetings:
Helpful NoiseGuy suggests:
Or by "raising it up a notch" did you mean install a bigger main jet?
Helpful NoiseGuy suggests:
I assume you mean to try installing the clip in the lowest position, thus raising the needle to richen the part-throttle mixture? That's easy too!Check that. Main jet is WOT, the needle jet is more responsible for mid-throttle response. Try raising it up a notch
Or by "raising it up a notch" did you mean install a bigger main jet?
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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Yep, I meant raising the needle a bit by moving the "clip" to the lowest position.
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Needles and Jets
Greetings:
The plug read was rich with my 90-ish jet. I left it in, but LOWERED the needle to the lowest of 3 notches to help lean part-throttle mixture and it felt better.
I'm now convinced I just need higher RPM further up in the speed range. Still watching mailbox for Taiwanese 8 and 7g rollers paid for Jan. 22nd. Also a trio of +1000 clutch springs to help launch. Almost there...
The plug read was rich with my 90-ish jet. I left it in, but LOWERED the needle to the lowest of 3 notches to help lean part-throttle mixture and it felt better.
I'm now convinced I just need higher RPM further up in the speed range. Still watching mailbox for Taiwanese 8 and 7g rollers paid for Jan. 22nd. Also a trio of +1000 clutch springs to help launch. Almost there...
Wheelman-111
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
