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more spree questions.
ok here goes guys, what oil do you guys recommend using for the injector, i seen castrol 2t, the honda stuff, universal 2 stroke, valvoline 2 stroke, even lucas injector oil? although i havent seen lucas in any store what do you use and what is best? and spark plugs, i have a huge list og different ones i can use, autolite, champion,ngk,bosch, champion in there now and its fine but i cant find ont that the top unscrews, used bosch and it didnt get above 25 put champion back in 30-31. so what are you guys using. and will running mixed gas in it hurt even though it injecting oil? seems to be alot of smoke at start up until its warm. thanks guyz 

1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
Re: more spree questions.
OIL: Choose a quality 2 stroke oil designed for injector systems. Don't get chainsaw oil designed for premix. You can use injector oil in premix but not visaversa.
PLUG: I wouldn't put Champion in my enemy's car. BTW, the cap will unscrew, just takes a pair of pliers. Most Champion are designed for auto which uses the cap and they don't want them coming loose.
Let's start with NGK. It usually comes without the cap installed. It is probably the best but also more expensive. From there I would go to motorcraft (autolite). Good plug and cheaper than NGK.
PLUG: I wouldn't put Champion in my enemy's car. BTW, the cap will unscrew, just takes a pair of pliers. Most Champion are designed for auto which uses the cap and they don't want them coming loose.
Let's start with NGK. It usually comes without the cap installed. It is probably the best but also more expensive. From there I would go to motorcraft (autolite). Good plug and cheaper than NGK.
I'm assuming you mean mph. Go with NGK or Motorcraft. I think you'll be happy.it didnt get above 25 put champion back in 30-31
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- Wheelman-111
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Re: more spree questions.
Greetings:
Sometimes stock is good. Honda-san's engineers had things pretty well sorted out when the scooter went to market. HIs engineers also specified the content of the GN-2 Stroker oil. You could, however, save hundreds of pennies a decade using something else...
Sometimes stock is good. Honda-san's engineers had things pretty well sorted out when the scooter went to market. HIs engineers also specified the content of the GN-2 Stroker oil. You could, however, save hundreds of pennies a decade using something else...

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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
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Point well taken... And I notice what our local Hondasan stocks. I'm too embarrassed to ask for any other brand. But it doesn't stop there. I tend to get best service with any small engine with NGK, whether it be chainsaw, weedeater, little lawnmowers, riding mower as well as scooters, and I've got em all. As many small motors as I have, I should buy stock in those people.Wheelman-111 wrote:Sometimes stock is good. Honda-san's engineers had things pretty well sorted out when the scooter went to market. HIs engineers also specified the content of the GN-2 Stroker oil. You could, however, save hundreds of pennies a decade using something else...

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Re: more spree questions.
has anyone tried the E3 diamond fire? i seen where they put it in a sb chevy 350 on horsepower tv and got better top end better hp and less emission, and they have them for small engines. and i too have everything with a motor except leaf blower it took a doup last wek with a bad rod bearing
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
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while everybody is here, it calls for ngk bpr 4,6,8 hs spark plug, 4 is standard,6 for cooler areas and 8 for extended wot, while its not cool here right now but does in the fall get down to 40. which one would be best.?
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
Re: more spree questions.
I wouldn't consider 40 degrees cold. I'm running 6's in most of mine and have a 4 in my NQ50 only because that was what was it it when I bought it, and it's got good color. If you think I'm Luny, you should meet my wife. It was 20 degrees when she made her maiden voyage. I thought it was a dun deal, better put it up for sale. A few days later, it had warmed up to 40 and she wanted to ride again, and going at it ever since.odinxxix wrote:while everybody is here, it calls for ngk bpr 4,6,8 hs spark plug, 4 is standard,6 for cooler areas and 8 for extended wot, while its not cool here right now but does in the fall get down to 40. which one would be best.?
Put a 6 in it, and when really cold weather gets here, if you have problems starting, put a 4 in it. As for me, once the snow and ice hits, as it does in MIchigan and frequently here, I'm dun ridin'. Service it for the winter and wait for the thaw.
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- bradthreee
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4= COOLERodinxxix wrote: 4 is standard,6 for cooler areas and 8 for extended wot
6= STANDARD
8= HOT
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well im in indiana and at the moment it hovers around 80 -95. fall it can get down to 30-40 and yes when snow flies i may got out and turn a donut but after that it serviced and stored. so 6 is the magic number ok sounds good to me i have 2 to change my nq50 spree and a 50cc suzuki fa50 which uses the same plug. although it says ngk/ha and spree ngk/hs or hsa im sure ha is old as it is an 82
1986 honda spree(silver fox)
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
BBK
85 head
SB50 intake
SB50 reeds
taz gears
2.75X10 tires
2000 honda elite S
prodigy vari
2k grabber clutch springs
9:1 gears
jdm tail lite
1982 suzuki FA50
Re: more spree questions.
OOPS! Brad is wide awake and the rest of us fell asleep on that one.bradthreee wrote:4= COOLERodinxxix wrote: 4 is standard,6 for cooler areas and 8 for extended wot
6= STANDARD
8= HOT
odinxxix, yeah, stick with the 6 and winterize when you're no longer brave enough to tough it. 40 is pretty well when I park it.
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NGK is my personal favorite.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
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I run a standard champion plug in my ped, as for the oil I mainly use GN2, but im going to try the castrol 2t oil when I run out of GN2 just to see how it is.
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my spree is a rolling NGK advertisement. Where it used to have spree logos, now it proudly displays big NGK logos.
and i run royal purple oil, but i recomend hondasan gn-2, mainly to avoid rekindling of the "dreaded oil thread". i just can't get gn2 locally
. avoid cheap oil to avoid expensive bearing replacement.
and i run royal purple oil, but i recomend hondasan gn-2, mainly to avoid rekindling of the "dreaded oil thread". i just can't get gn2 locally

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1987 Spree, 42mph on 49cc (gps)
Broken...
Spreeio
1987 Spree
With af16e powah!!!!
77cc Malossi Ministroker, 24mm oKo, 30mm V8 pipe.
Chinabike 3000! GY6 clone daily driver/ beater machine bought for $75!
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I heard Royal purple makes 2 stroke injector oil, but it was like $12 a bottle in my neck of the woods. How's that stuff working out for you? RP is what I run in my Honda Fit and I love it!
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my spree is a rolling NGK advertisement. Where it used to have spree logos, now it proudly displays big NGK logos.
HEY! I wonder if NGK would sponsor me for a makeover if I put their stickers on my scoot. Large print of course.

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