Shop flat rate books

[noiseguy]

Hey,

Anyone seen or have access to flat rate books for scooters? These are used to estimate hours to make typical repairs at a shop before repairs are conducted.

Mostly, I'm interested in who produces them, and how model-specific they are. I'd be interested in any electronic versions if they are out there.

Thanks!

[Lunytune]

Chilton's and Mitchell's used to do auto. I don't know about scooters.

Check Amazon. They've got Flat Rate Manuals, just have to search for scooters

Here's an online for powersports, everything but scooters.
http://www.spader.com/Tools/Samples/08- ... Sample.pdf

This is my third edit. I'm finding "some" stuff out there. I wonder how a motorcycle manual would compare? It would be better than comparing rebuild on a Honda carb to a Quadrajet, for sure.

[Accolay]

I don't think they have the flat rate books, at least for my 1987 SE50. Try your years though, they have lots of reprints etc. Prices are resonable. I think this is a great resource for manuals.

http://www.helminc.com/helm/search_serv ... QWKSEVETV3

[noiseguy]

Here's an online for powersports, everything but scooters.
http://www.spader.com/Tools/Samples/08- ... Sample.pdf

This is my third edit. I'm finding "some" stuff out there. I wonder how a motorcycle manual would compare? It would be better than comparing rebuild on a Honda carb to a Quadrajet, for sure.

The above is what I'm looking for. I could probably generate one from memory, but would like to get some more info from an official publication.

A motorcycle version of a flat-rate manual would probably be close enough.

[01EliteSR]

Since i work at a Honda dealership I could get you some numbers if you tell me what you need em for. We got these big books that tell us how long each job takes. Helm is the best place. They are the ones who produce all our owner manuals, shop manuals, flate rate, and ID books.

[Lunytune]

Since i work at a Honda dealership I could get you some numbers if you tell me what you need em for. We got these big books that tell us how long each job takes. Helm is the best place. They are the ones who produce all our owner manuals, shop manuals, flate rate, and ID books.

I don't know what noiseguy's objective is, but I live in a small town which has some potential for scooter growth. I'm promoting it. But if I do, I may also want to make myself available for a few jobs, such as carburetor R&R & cleaning, "tuneup", belt change... on AF05E and AF16E.

My only real competition is 1/2 breed Yammerhammer/Hondasan shop, 30 miles away, and local used car dealership which picked up on a SUNL franchise. Not much there. I would have a corner on the market for Honda scooters, maybe cycles.

I've found some cycle books and ATV on eBay, but don't know how applicable they would be.

Since you work in a Honda Dealership, do you have anything on the Dio? Not the Elite AF16E but the JDM Dio with AF18E. My local Hondasan partsman (1/2 breed yammerhammer) gives me this dumb look. He tries, but can't help much.

[01EliteSR]

I allready looked, all our material only covers stuff made for the american market. No Dio, I've searched high and low for it. I've even had request sent in for info straight from Honda and they told me that information was unavaliable for my market.