What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
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What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
I'm new around here, what exactly are the differences? Are there any?
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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
Greetings:
Google a website called The Motorscooter Guide.
Condensed:
Sprees and Elite "E"s share a low-output unvariated powerplant marked AF05E. Slower to accelerate and quick to peak at 30, but light, nimble, inexpensive and very durable.
Aeros and Elites share two generations of higher-output engines with variator transmissions. Incredibly the early Elites and Aeros were also marked AF05E, despite a totally different design. They both accelerate better and top out faster than Sprees and Es. 1994-later Elites received the coveted AF16E engine, which you'll see called The Dio here. Search "What Engine Code Did You SA" for even greater confusion.
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Condensed:
Sprees and Elite "E"s share a low-output unvariated powerplant marked AF05E. Slower to accelerate and quick to peak at 30, but light, nimble, inexpensive and very durable.
Aeros and Elites share two generations of higher-output engines with variator transmissions. Incredibly the early Elites and Aeros were also marked AF05E, despite a totally different design. They both accelerate better and top out faster than Sprees and Es. 1994-later Elites received the coveted AF16E engine, which you'll see called The Dio here. Search "What Engine Code Did You SA" for even greater confusion.
Welcome to the Mad world of Honda 2T 50s!
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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
the site wheelz mentioned is top notch, read up on it and you'll be more awareeurero wrote:I'm new around here, what exactly are the differences? Are there any?

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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
the main and most important difference is that the Aero was superior to the rest in nearly every way, ESPECIALLY in appearance.



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Good point, Driz!

Good point, Driz!

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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
+1drizzle wrote:the main and most important difference is that the Aero was superior to the rest in nearly every way, ESPECIALLY in appearance.
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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
i 2nd that... The best looking Honda made? The Aero 50!
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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
oh, yes! 100% agree !The Aero 50 looks the best! 

I'd rather be riding my Aero!
Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
Now a new term shows up on the forum; "Aero Elitist" 

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'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree

'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
Aero what! 

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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
You don't know what an elitist is? Do you know what elite means?Johnny5 wrote:Aero what!

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'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree

'83 Aero 80 X 3
'84 Aero 80 X 3
'85 Aero 80
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'84 Aero 125
'84 Aero 125 X 2
'85 Aero 50
'85 Spree
Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
But way short on storage/luggage space.drizzle wrote:the main and most important difference is that the Aero was superior to the rest in nearly every way, ESPECIALLY in appearance.

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Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
There are two lockable storage places on the Aero 50. Compared to what are they way short on storage? All three models were only built at the same time in one year and that was 1987. The Spree and Elite only had small cubby spaces and no lockable storage. So I'm confused about your statement? Even if we are talking later Elites, they don't have much more storage either. Unless your comparing it to a Elite 150 or Helix, then ok your right.Lunytune wrote:But way short on storage/luggage space.drizzle wrote:the main and most important difference is that the Aero was superior to the rest in nearly every way, ESPECIALLY in appearance.
I'd rather be riding my Aero!
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Another Aero Elitist on a Spree
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Nothing's more debatable than looks, but t me the '87 SE Elite pulls the look together best. Pity about the storage space...
The Aero was likened by someone to a Barracuda compared to the later Elites' Mitsubishi look. Perhaps, but the Elite has a tighter, stronger feel 'round the corners. However you really feel that extra 20 pounds when you carry one upstairs.
Nothing's more debatable than looks, but t me the '87 SE Elite pulls the look together best. Pity about the storage space...
The Aero was likened by someone to a Barracuda compared to the later Elites' Mitsubishi look. Perhaps, but the Elite has a tighter, stronger feel 'round the corners. However you really feel that extra 20 pounds when you carry one upstairs.

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Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Most of my money is spent on scooterparts. The rest is just wasted.
"ISO": '03 Vespa ET4 Malossi187 74MPH
Flash 9: 2001 Elite SR Contesta 72 ZX Tran, 9:1 Gears, Stock Airbox/Carb/Pipe 58.8 MPH
Punkin: 2010 Vespa/Malossi S78, 61MPH
Re: What are the differences between the elite/spree/aero?
I'm confused too. I've only seen one close up and do remember it seemed (to me) to be lacking in space. I remember access to the sparkplug was through a panel on the right side. Seems it may have been an '84? I'll take a closer look next time I ride with the guy.novs86 wrote:There are two lockable storage places on the Aero 50. Compared to what are they way short on storage? All three models were only built at the same time in one year and that was 1987. The Spree and Elite only had small cubby spaces and no lockable storage. So I'm confused about your statement? Even if we are talking later Elites, they don't have much more storage either. Unless your comparing it to a Elite 150 or Helix, then ok your right.Lunytune wrote:But way short on storage/luggage space.drizzle wrote:the main and most important difference is that the Aero was superior to the rest in nearly every way, ESPECIALLY in appearance.
The Helix doesn't necessarily have that much more space, but it's classy and actually resembles a trunk, not an afterthought for using space available as the Elites seem to be. There is provision for a luggage rack which increases capacity considerable with the official milk crate.
All in all, I like my new 86 Spree. It is nifty... and that's said after owning a Dio and three Elite SA's.
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