front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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i know where i can get a drum set up such as this- is it THAT much more superior to the standard Elite fork/ brake?
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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same size as the elite s front drum brakes.the only difference is that the dio forks look sexier than the elite s forks.if using those forks you need the triple that goes with it.the spacing on the triple is only for the drum style.you cant use drum style triple on disc brake setup.its to narrow.if you use a disc triple on a drum setup,itw ill be off center because of the drum locking tab.
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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the elite s you have to tilt the triple a little to get the rake correct if not the wheel will be to close to the under part of the body and it will look like you ran into a wall.

and just how do you recommend this ?
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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bakaracer wrote:same size as the elite s front drum brakes.the only difference is that the dio forks look sexier than the elite s forks.if using those forks you need the triple that goes with it.the spacing on the triple is only for the drum style.you cant use drum style triple on disc brake setup.its to narrow.if you use a disc triple on a drum setup,itw ill be off center because of the drum locking tab.
so is the rake and trail the same as with the US spec Elite fork- both being drum?

in other words the drum telescopic is a direct bolt-on to the Elite with a trailing link fork, in this case a 96+ U.S. spec model Elite ?
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no.the 94-01 elite s you have to tilt the triple foward a little and reweld.only the 87 elite 50 is a direct plug and play.doesn't matter if its disc or drum forks.
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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excellent info.
i'm tempted to source the drum telescopic front end.
it has wheel with drum cables, forks and triples of course.

under 100 dollars to my door.

question is- do i?
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if you can get it for $100 to your door,do it.
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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mookie wrote:i know where i can get a drum set up such as this- is it THAT much more superior to the standard Elite fork/ brake?
IMO, no. . I have a Dio with disc and Elites with drum brake. Dio has straight fork, and the Elites have the pivot arm shocks. I tend to like the straight fork, but no valid argument for it.

But what do I know? If I was racing high speed, it might be different, but you have to consider that the greater stopping on a two wheeler had better not be the front, or you will be swapping ends with it. I generally apply both brakes and depending on the feel, will shift braking from front to back.
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get in touch with scooterwerx if i can remember he has a at least one bike with disc brakes. maybe he can shed some light on to how he did his conversion.

I PM'd him about the topic. Hopefully we can drop us some nfoz
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This is what i came up with from KYMCO parts...

KYMCO ZX 50 Disc Brakes

I think if your looking to do the conversion this would be the perfect setup and compatible.


Front Fork
http://www.kymcopartsonline.com/catalog ... odel_id=12

Part Number 2 & 3 / 12, 13, 14.


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ZX 50 Front Wheel Disc brakes

http://www.kymcopartsonline.com/catalog ... odel_id=12

Caliper
Part Numbers 145, 147"two bolts"

I'd say the whole front wheel as it includes many of the other needed parts.
Part Number 150

also the disc too.
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This bike is from another site. But included is pictures and a list of it's mods. Including disc brakes.

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Here is a list of mods:
Disk Brake Conversion, Machined Lathe Shortened legs, Triple clamp clears horn cover, JDM Monkey R Front fender.
JDM Smile Rear Fenders and Tails
Spree Glove Box, and fuel valve cover
Custom spoiler (looks dumb but will include with sale) just needed a grab bar for now
Daytona Rear Shock
S Side Stand (Welded to downtube) Very Sturdy
S Mount Custom fit (Shortened) No tire rub on rear fender, Motor sits straight dead on


Frontal view of the FORKS.
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125cc stroker motor (Honda S block AF16E)
NEW 52.6 FM Crank
NEW 55mm FM Bore Kit
NEW Honda Bearings and Seals
NEW PG Long
NEW 30mm OKO Carb
CT Chrome intake
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NEW RKR ZX Kevlar Belt
Kelly Pulley/Ramp
NEW 7:1 ASN Gears(16/42)primary
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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seems someone told me that the Kymco ZX front is too wide for a scoot with
front cover (as in late model Elites)
but don't take my word for it lets wait for someone who really has a clue. i'm learning!
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I'm just spitting out ideas. don't quote me. =P
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Re: front disc brake for Spree/Elite

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dem0nk1d wrote:This is what i came up with from KYMCO parts...

KYMCO ZX 50 Disc Brakes

I think if your looking to do the conversion this would be the perfect setup and compatible.


Front Fork
http://www.kymcopartsonline.com/catalog ... odel_id=12

Part Number 2 & 3 / 12, 13, 14.


----




ZX 50 Front Wheel Disc brakes

http://www.kymcopartsonline.com/catalog ... odel_id=12

Caliper
Part Numbers 145, 147"two bolts"

I'd say the whole front wheel as it includes many of the other needed parts.
Part Number 150

also the disc too.
the problem of using the kymco zx50 frontend is the legs are longer,the triple is wider and it uses a 12in front rim way to big for a spree.The frontend in the picture you posted are sym dd50 parts which is almost the same as dio parts just that it has a 12mm axle vs the 10mm axle the US frontend and the japan disc brake setup..
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