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Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 3:21 pm
by eliteguy50
Wheelman-111 wrote:... Now I submit that it's impossible to do this with an auto-clutch that you can't disengage. Short of locking the rear wheel, ...
That is how I used to do it until I realized locking the wheel at 9k is probably not so good for engine parts. I don't need anymore stripped cranks or bent rods. :oops:

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:13 pm
by Bear45-70
eliteguy50 wrote:
Wheelman-111 wrote:... Now I submit that it's impossible to do this with an auto-clutch that you can't disengage. Short of locking the rear wheel, ...
That is how I used to do it until I realized locking the wheel at 9k is probably not so good for engine parts. I don't need anymore stripped cranks or bent rods. :oops:
Never ever lock the wheels, front or rear will braking. It is a good what to get hurt or killed.

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:16 pm
by eliteguy50
Bear45-70 wrote:Never ever lock the wheels, front or rear will braking. It is a good what to get hurt or killed.
Especially if you are a kid at home and the old man sees the marks you left in the yard.

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:23 pm
by patthesoundguy
Again Bear you have changed life for the better!! Thanks for passing on the expearience! :bowrofl:

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:29 pm
by killerpancake
i agree with everything said, but wouldn't the fact of a centrifugal clutch make this problem non existant? What im saying is, when the engine is off, the clutch is pulled back in by the springs on the clutch, because there is nothing forcing them out because the engine is off.
im not sure if im saying this correctly to make sense. but it's like trying to bump start a moped, it's impossible to do because the clutch isn't extended. Am I correct?

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:43 pm
by bakaracer
the clutch stays engaged to a certain rpm then it closes. on stock clutch springs,thats around 3800rpm. on a spree it might be lower around 3200rpm.

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:55 pm
by eliteguy50
bakaracer wrote:the clutch stays engaged to a certain rpm then it closes. on stock clutch springs,thats around 3800rpm. on a spree it might be lower around 3200rpm.
Right, because the clutch is already engaged from riding top speed, it will not disengage until you drop below those RPM's or the force is released from the lock up.

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:58 pm
by killerpancake
AH! that makes perfect sense. so basically you could put the brakes on quick to get it from about 32 with a regular moped, down to say 15 that should get it low enough to disengage for a more accurate reading. as long as you're not in traffic.

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:44 pm
by toad772
killerpancake wrote:AH! that makes perfect sense. so basically you could put the brakes on quick to get it from about 32 with a regular moped, down to say 15 that should get it low enough to disengage for a more accurate reading. as long as you're not in traffic.
Why would you go somewhere with traffic to do a plug chop?

Re: No True "Plug Chop" for Scooters

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:39 pm
by killerpancake
That's the joke.