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Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:55 am
by dun rite
Hello: Bad reed valves? Or possibly vacuum line hooked to wrong port, there was a memeber with that problem not to long ago. read this page
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19107&hilit=vacuum not sure if your's is the same model or not. Know nothing of the spree's
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:16 pm
by Bear45-70
wtdash wrote:It actually started RIGHT UP last nite...then promptly quit. If I cranked it repeatedly (a few seconds @ a time) it would eventually start/stop. If I held the throttle open, it would run a little longer then die. A lot of gas comes out exhaust and ends up on the floor after these episodes.
This is w/my 'test gas tank'. The only way to get gas into the carb when hooked to the petcock is to suck on the vac tube. I removed the tank and petcock and gas flowed freely...it's not a tank issue.
New petcock will need ordered.
It's once again filling the cylinder w/gas w/the 2nd carb...the starter slows down, I pull the plug, which is soaked, and run the starter for a few secs w/a rag over the top of the engine to soak up some of the fuel while it empties out.
I checked the spark and it arcs between the tip and the head @ least 1/2" that I read was good.
Checked compression: 115, which is OK. Manual states 113 minimum.
Since I can't get it to run for more than a couple of seconds, I'm not able to adjust the idle...it's not getting warmed up.
TD
Your carb is flooding over. Do it again.
Not 113 but 114 PSI is minimum in the manual.
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:17 pm
by Bear45-70
dun rite wrote:Hello: Bad reed valves? Or possibly vacuum line hooked to wrong port, there was a memeber with that problem not to long ago. read this page
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19107&hilit=vacuum not sure if your's is the same model or not. Know nothing of the spree's
If the reeds were bad enough to kill it while running, he would never get it started. He has carb flooding issues.
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:27 pm
by wtdash
Your carb is flooding over. Do it again.
Understood.
Not 113 but 114 PSI is minimum in the manual.
Looks like Honda's proof-reader didn't proof.....
From the Wikispredia Service Manual for the '84-87 Spree:
And from the actual Compression Test section:
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:43 pm
by richdavison34
Insegnamenti di matematica.
Just for you TrafficJamz
TrafficJamz: Math..........It not just for smart people
1 kgf/cm┬▓ x 1 lbf/0.45359237 kgf x (2.54 cm/in)┬▓ = 14.22334 lbf/in┬▓
14.2 X 8 =
113.6 psi
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:02 pm
by wtdash
Wanted to say THANKS to all that responded. It's running properly...hopefully for the summer @ least.
I'm not going to say what obvious thing we overlooked
, but reading the manual for the 3rd time lined out the error of our ways.
I appreciate the help!
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:15 pm
by motormike
Seriously,.....I've read the whole thread.....anticipated the outcome......strained my pea-brain......and you're gonna just leave me, and all the members that gave you time and advice, ........dont FLAKE on us.....give up the solution.......I was leaning toward trash in the bowl......I PROMISE never to utter a word about your embarassment........ 
..........In the spirit of the forum, share............... 
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:37 pm
by wtdash
Bear will eat me for lunch! Or worse, just ignore my future posts.
We had the flipping Vac/fuel lines reversed from the petcock to the carb/Intake!
No, I don't know how we overlooked it either.
(And you didn't catch my hint: "...lined out.." )
But that explains why the fuel was ending up in cylinder, not the carb, I believe.
Now, where's that rock........
Re: '84 Spree-Starts, runs, dies - carb just cleaned by pro
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:57 pm
by motormike
As I read thru the previous post, I mentally reversed the statement and it came out..."out-lined".....then I realized it said "lined out"......Yes, I did fail to catch the hint even though I found the statement to not sound just right.....Thanx for coming clean......and hope your scoot serves you well for many moons..................