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Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 12:04 pm
by Bear45-70
nickisaninja wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:Don't be a moron, punk.
Don't fall off your high horse, you'll break a hip.
You are too stupid to do anything but attack those much more knowledgeable than you will ever be. "Too stupid to learn from your mistakes!" is you to a "T". Of course I will not break a hip, I don't fall down like the clumsy nitwit you are.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:13 pm
by Ricerider
What!! :*:

"I blew up my last se50 from an electric ducted fan, looks like way too much heat. I was using two 7.2v li-po batteries and a controller from a traxxas emaxx. The jug cracked and everything from connecting rod up is toast. They're not made to do work"

Electric ducted fan?

Did you think that to 7.2v batteries on an elect fan would produce more cooling then a fan on the crank winding at 8k??

The stock fan pushes ALOT of air....

If you insist on wrecking good motors leave the spree alone and go by a gy6

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 4:38 pm
by Bear45-70
Ricerider wrote:What!! :*:

"I blew up my last se50 from an electric ducted fan, looks like way too much heat. I was using two 7.2v li-po batteries and a controller from a traxxas emaxx. The jug cracked and everything from connecting rod up is toast. They're not made to do work"

Electric ducted fan?

Did you think that to 7.2v batteries on an elect fan would produce more cooling then a fan on the crank winding at 8k??

The stock fan pushes ALOT of air....

If you insist on wrecking good motors leave the spree alone and go by a gy6
He was using the ducted fan to supercharge the engine, not cool it.
Sounds like he did not rejet after putting the supercharger ducted fan on, that's called "Not knowing what the * you are doing." Image

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:33 pm
by nickisaninja
Ricerider wrote:What!! :*:

"I blew up my last se50 from an electric ducted fan, looks like way too much heat. I was using two 7.2v li-po batteries and a controller from a traxxas emaxx. The jug cracked and everything from connecting rod up is toast. They're not made to do work"

Electric ducted fan?

Did you think that to 7.2v batteries on an elect fan would produce more cooling then a fan on the crank winding at 8k??

The stock fan pushes ALOT of air....

If you insist on wrecking good motors leave the spree alone and go by a gy6
yes the EDF would push more air than the stock fan. A lot more air.

I could have ran a little lean but what is more probable is force feeding an air cooled motor that couldn't dissipate the heat. Air/fuel is an issue but heat is a bigger issue.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:42 pm
by fastplastic
so what your saying is you know nothing about how a turbo works and think a fan can really make psi to even boost the engine in the first place......... you sir are a justifiable moron :thumbwink:

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 5:49 pm
by fastplastic
Bear he took his stock air box off to put his "turbo" on thats what leaned the motor out not that computer fan he was using.......

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:13 pm
by Bear45-70
fastplastic wrote:Bear he took his stock air box off to put his "turbo" on thats what leaned the motor out not that computer fan he was using.......
I know. I remember his great claims about how cheap he could do this. Not so cheap after he blew the motor up. Theorist should not actually build things, they do not understand real life physics and mechanics.

Oh and nickisaninja, there is no way in * that all that heat was produced by the boost. It was produced from the fuel/air mixture being too lean, total failure on the part of the designer, builder and tuner, AKA YOU!

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sat May 07, 2011 6:19 pm
by fastplastic
:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: Failure at life nick :2thumbs:

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:26 am
by devenex
Bear45-70 wrote:Theorist should not actually build things, they do not understand real life physics and mechanics.
Hey now, I'm a theoretical physical chemist! Saying someone is a theorist because they put a computer fan on their intake is insulting. Thats just a poorly thought-out idea, no theory involved.

Not looking to start a fight about it, but I felt this needed to be pointed out.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:49 am
by Bear45-70
devenex wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:Theorist should not actually build things, they do not understand real life physics and mechanics.
Hey now, I'm a theoretical physical chemist! Saying someone is a theorist because they put a computer fan on their intake is insulting. Thats just a poorly thought-out idea, no theory involved.

Not looking to start a fight about it, but I felt this needed to be pointed out.
At one time in my life right after the military, I worked at Beechcraft airplane factory in Wichita, Kansas before I became the lineman for the county, but that is another story. I worked in the experimental department as an electronics tech. The engineers would come up with these great ideas up on cloud 9, their second floor office. Then they had to come down to the shop floor and deal with us lowly mechanical wrenching types and find out why their great idea wouldn't work. Little things like the servos for the autopilot go there or the ILS antenna was in the way. I was a good system because the engineer then went back to their cloud 9 and redesigned it so it would work in the real world.

Isn't "theoretical physical chemist" an oxymoron? Image

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 2:30 am
by devenex
Oh no you didn't!

Yeah, my gf gives me crap about it all the time. Physical chemistry can also be called chemical physics, but I'm a chemist by trade and not a physicist thus the title I use.

Lots of room for theory in the field BTW, as well as experiment of course. Ideally both mesh together to achieve a greater understanding of something, as each individually tend to leave something to behind.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 3:13 am
by Bear45-70
devenex wrote:Oh no you didn't!

Yeah, my gf gives me crap about it all the time. Physical chemistry can also be called chemical physics, but I'm a chemist by trade and not a physicist thus the title I use.

Lots of room for theory in the field BTW, as well as experiment of course. Ideally both mesh together to achieve a greater understanding of something, as each individually tend to leave something to behind.
Now I can agree with that. Image

Besides you live in Duck town. I lived in Springfield about 40 years ago.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 4:13 am
by wiguy05
nickisaninja wrote: I'm against the obvious answer because they're simply not available here and I'm not shipping a moped motor here that's ridiculous.
I have shipped large engine parts to Sweden, Australia and various parts of Europe....so please don't act like its not possible :jack:

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 12:36 pm
by Bear45-70
wiguy05 wrote:
nickisaninja wrote: I'm against the obvious answer because they're simply not available here and I'm not shipping a moped motor here that's ridiculous.
I have shipped large engine parts to Sweden, Australia and various parts of Europe....so please don't act like its not possible :jack:
I agree, I have ordered and received parts from several countries in Europe plus Taiwan, China, Japan, Thailand, South Africa and Australia. It just isn't that hard to do. Oh and this stuff has come via common mail, DHL, UPS and FedEx.

Re: Se50 speed time. In an '86 spree.

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 1:29 pm
by fastplastic
and again nick you are a FAILURE AT LIFE :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: