Keeping Spree Elite Aero 50cc and Gyro Alive!
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Remove the grease from the variator. It does cause flat rollers. Honda only has the stock rollers. I believe the CH 80 uses the same size rollers as the Aero 80 which is 14 X 18, at least they use the same ramp plate. Oh and the 14 X 18 rollers are available aftermarket, on flea-bay, etc.wood10214 wrote:Thanks again, the grease may be the problem for the flat roller, hope someone here can comfirm it.Mystic wrote:I have no idea hahahha never actually worked on a ch80 but i wouldnt think grease is supposed to be in there. clean all the grease off with solvent then do a search for rollers on ebay or call honda
I think bear's honda dealer has the best price for the roller, only thing they ship UPS for every thing, last time it took more than 1 week to get a gaskets, if they send post office, should only take 3-5 days, I'll order from them again, before I order, did the roller has choice or just stock only?
Think I need the whole drivr face with roller.The service manual is WRONG. It took Honda a lot of years to figure it out. On top of that there are new materials out there that will wear the metal and not the plastic, UMHW is one of them. Oh and the problem with using any grease is you have to keep the O-ring and the rear plate, which restricts the the variator movement. Removing the rear plate is part of hop up 101.wood10214 wrote:Just look the service manual, the drive face should apply some light grease, but should NOT be like sh*t that I found on mine, and also, who even service this before didn't put the ramp plate guide back. after I remove all those sh*t grease and found 2 of the 3 metal tap was broke
Which rear plate?Bear45-70 wrote:Oh and the problem with using any grease is you have to keep the O-ring and the rear plate, which restricts the the variator movement. Removing the rear plate is part of hop up 101.
apply conservatively 
Don't want to pop your bubble of lack of knowledge on 2 strokes again, but that seal is keeping 2 stoke oil inside the engine and if that isn't enough lube to keep it soft and pliable than a little grease on the outside ain't gonna get the job done, ever. Besides that any grease flying around under the belt cover will eventually end up on the belt, causing what? A big problem?Mystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
Wow, I never going to find out this myself. Thank you.Bear45-70 wrote:The one held on my the 3 little bolts. Honda calls it a "SEAL, MOVABLE FACE".
with all these help, I can feel the speed alreadyMystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
will post when the part arrive.Bear45-70 wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble of lack of knowledge on 2 strokes again, \Mystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
In that case, the crankcase oil in on the inside of the crank seal and the grease on the out side is a waste of time and asking to trouble. So in either case he is full of crap as you would have know if you had used you head for something other than a hat rack.DeathByFox wrote:Bear45-70 wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble of lack of knowledge on 2 strokes again, \Mystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
Dont wanna pop your bubble but the elite 80 is a four stroke....
yea well your knowledge is hit and miss too buddy, why dont you just take a long walk off a short pierBear45-70 wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble of lack of knowledge on 2 strokes again, but that seal is keeping 2 stoke oil inside the engine and if that isn't enough lube to keep it soft and pliable than a little grease on the outside ain't gonna get the job done, ever. Besides that any grease flying around under the belt cover will eventually end up on the belt, causing what? A big problem?Mystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
I apply a little grease there and I have had no problems, * the honda man said to put grease all in the the movable drive face with the roller weights pre 93. Wrenching is not an exact sience, each and every day an idea is improved upon.. you are just an *.DeathByFox wrote:Bear45-70 wrote:Don't want to pop your bubble of lack of knowledge on 2 strokes again, \Mystic wrote:a little grease behind the final part of the drive face next to the crank won't hurt and will keep the crank seal moist
Dont wanna pop your bubble but the elite 80 is a four stroke....
He is alright sometimes though, I try to respect my elders on occassion, they do give good advice between moments of lucidity