Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Welcome to the forum.. As a new moped owner that intends to do work on his/her own. There is no harm in owning a few of the special tools one needs to do the repairs properly. Harbor Freight is a good place to pick up tools you will need, also second hand stores, swapmeets, the tools don't have to be Snap-on.

Compression tester. http://www.harborfreight.com/flex-drive ... 92697.html

At some point you will need to remove the variator (drive face) this will work good http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-to- ... 36778.html

torque wrench. http://www.harborfreight.com/2-inch-to- ... 36778.html

renting or borrowing is the other option, but if you need the tool once, chance's are that you will need it again and again.

Ok I will do that. I am assuming the spark plug type is in the manual I printed. Gapping is prob also in there too. If you know off the top of your head what plug and gap I need, let me know. Any particular brand preferred? I have gasoline stabilizer called Stabil. Can I just put a cap full of that in there to juice up the gas again? Any particular oil I should put in the spark plug hole?[/quote]

i have a spre (ANOTHER 4 LETTER WORD ) so i wood get the info out of the book .. i wood not do the stable its not to bring gas back to life its to keep it alive.. oil 2 cycle wood be best ..
when you do the compression test if you have the key on and the spark plus groned to the mettle it will tell you if you have spark.. if not groned you will fell the spark so be careful ..
swimmingfree

Ok really good news. Went to Walmart yesterday and bought the 4lb battery. Added the acid last night and did its initial charge this morning. She started right up but there is a problem. When giving it gas it runs smoothly but when idling the motor sort of chugs and bounces and seems to want to shut off, but it doesn't. It bounces against the frame making a clunking noise.

I am thinking that maybe it is running too lean or rich or something. Maybe I need to drain the old gas and do an oil change? I know I know, I should have drained the old gas first, but I didn't just because I wanted to see if it would start, which it did

So now I am going to head to the gas station and fill up my gas can. I have 2 stroke oil I bought from Advanced Auto. See the photo of that below, and let me know if this is the oil I need. I am going to post a bunch of pictures I took of everything. Took a bunch of panels off and power washed them. Next I want to do a bunch of cleaning in the engine compartment before I put everything back together.

that seafoam stuff is supposed to clean out your engine, carburator and all kinds of stuff drain the old gas and oil and put 1 oz of the seafoam in your gas tank and take her for a test drive the problem at idle may just be a partially clogged idle jet if so the seafoam label says it cleans that for you I guess you can use whatever 2 stroke oil you want but we like to use the best around here. I have used the 2 stroke oil from the dollar store before hahahha

old gas dose not have the power that new gas that may be what is going on with the not wanting to run at slow speed or idle... its harder to run a motor slow then fast ...
fix the kick starteryou may be stuck along the road if you don't ..i will say i told you so if you don't
you don't no if its is charging the battery and if not????
swimming free

Yea thanks for the tips. I will def fix the kickstarter. What about the oil I put a picture of? Is that stuff ok? "Outdoor 2-Cycle Air-Cooled Engine Oil" from Pennzoil. Is it the right stuff? Where can I get this Seafoam? I am headed to Pep Boys now. I will keep checking this post on my Droid phone. Thanks again.

personally I use the Lucas Performance 2 stroke, havent had any problems with it at all. you can get seafoam at any autoparts store or even walmart now. I just got some yesterday but havent had a chance to put any in and ride. I have seen it put in a 4 wheeler that I know the carb needed cleaning and it runs like a top now without taking it apart. It cant hurt your engine so give that a try before you have to take the carb apart and swimmingfree is right no telling how well that old gas burns at low spark, I always drain and use the old gas as a solvent to clean other parts no way I am just going to waste gas thats just crazy

The manual doesn't say, but how many ounces of oil do I need for an oil change? I have two 8oz. containers right now, but I am headed to Pep Boys and will buy more if I need it. Please advise.

i'm of the feeling that oil is oil but i'm sure some of these people have there ony felling on that..
i wood put in prem gas in it now it will help the old gas in the tank and you did not dump it and prem will help this time ..the rest of your fill you can just use cheep gas if there is a thing
the seefom you can get it at most Pep Boys I'm ant sure if its good for 2-Cycle Air-Cooled Engine .. i wood just what on it ..it may work its self out by just by putting good gas in it
not raising gas just pren gas..
have fun and in joy and when you get home brush you teeth to get the bug out of them
swimmingfree

Completely drain gas and oil tanks.

Clean carb 3-4 times, a gallon dunk tank from any auto store is best.

Fill with fresh gas.

Fill with Honda GN2.

Replace spark plug with recommended plug.

the seafoam is for all engine types, you can put it in the gas, oil,and even spray it in the carb or airbox while the engine is running. you can even put it in diesel You just fill up the oil tank, not sure how much it holds lol the 2 stroke doesnt hold a bunch of oil inside of it all the time like 4 stroke engines do, you just fill the oil tank and look in there every few gas fill ups to see if it needs to be topped off.

Is there an oil drain plug? How do i drain oil? I see the tube at botttom of tank.

i wood pull it and get something to put it in..
did you put gas in it ??
IF SO HOW IS IT RUNNING NOW???

to drain the oil it would be best to remove the oil tank, the hose coming off the bottom is fairly small and will take a while to drain by gravity only. Also with the tank removed you can rinse out the tank.

as far as the pennzoil goes, Not sure I would use it. At least read the bottle to see if it's for injection systems or to be used as premix. You should be able to find a good oil at any motorcycle shop. Preferably a Honda shop

So there is no oil drain plug at the bottom of the motor? Right now I am heading out to an advance auto parts in order to get the n g k spark plug that I need. I bought an auto light 1 yesterday but I'd rather have that n g k for peace of mind. Got the sea foam and castrol 2 stroke engine oil in a quart bottle. Where do I drain the gasoline?