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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 6:02 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
Many ways to detach feline epidermis, grasshopper. Oil filter strap wrench works for some. Others prefer jamming the outer pulley teeth with a homemade tool. A chain wrench from Harbor Freight can be used. My current favorite is
This Tool from Rocky Mountain Sports - about $20.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:19 pm
by Majourlittle
If the cyl is still on, I would find a friend with an impact wrench. Most local shops will hit it for you for free if you ask nicely.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:28 pm
by 89eliteR
Majourlittle wrote:If the cyl is still on, I would find a friend with an impact wrench. Most local shops will hit it for you for free if you ask nicely.
Got a compressor and pneumatic tools on the way this weekend

Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:30 pm
by Mystic
I use a pair of vise grips clamped onto the drive face and the handle either braced aghainst the clutch or a block sitting on the ground depending on tightening or loosing. once braced take a socket wrench and tap it with a hammer till the bolt loosens. as for the clutch I put a broomstick through the backwheel then spin it so it braces aghainst the bottom of the motor or top depending and also tap the socket wrench handle till the bolt loosens

good luck
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:33 pm
by 89eliteR
Mystic wrote:I use a pair of vise grips clamped onto the drive face and the handle either braced aghainst the clutch or a block sitting on the ground depending on tightening or loosing. once braced take a socket wrench and tap it with a hammer till the bolt loosens. as for the clutch I put a broomstick through the backwheel then spin it so it braces aghainst the bottom of the motor or top depending and also tap the socket wrench handle till the bolt loosens

good luck
That is bad *. If i only knew this before I removed the motor.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:41 pm
by 89eliteR
So with the motor out, I get antsy to get it all cleaned up and stripped down. Im taking lots of pictures and labeling stuff so I know where things go when its time to assemble.
Once I removed the heat cover for the cylinder, I see the hideousness that is.....
now the whole thing is super rusty, but it does not stop there. I remove the head of the cylinder and I find this
Now that seems to be a fair sized chunk of something. Im amazed the scooter ran so well for how much I drove it this summer.
Now I wish to also remove the cylinder, how would I go about doing so? I found 2 bolts by the fan which seems to go somewhere, but the cylinder doesn't budge when I remove them.
So again I humbly ask the experts here, how do I remove this ugly monstrosity?
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:54 pm
by Majourlittle
This is about the time you want to check the manuals that are posted on this site. The flywheel hides a few more bolts, but removing that takes a bit more ingenuity.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:15 pm
by 89eliteR
Majourlittle wrote:This is about the time you want to check the manuals that are posted on this site. The flywheel hides a few more bolts, but removing that takes a bit more ingenuity.
So I was quickly browsing the wiki and came across this
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... it_Install
Now these steps are for the newer elite, but I'm wondering if the same rules apply in regards to removing the 4 bolts on the head and pulling the cylinder off. I'm sure it was never off for the 22 years of its life so would it be the gasket holding it on? Or would it be the bolts behind the fly wheel that you speak of? (Wiki shows sa50 I have se50)
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:21 pm
by Mystic
tap the cylinder with a rubber mallet from the bottom in an upward motion till it loosens up the gasket has it sealed to the block

the combustion chamber on the cylinder head actually doesnt look THAT bad it could be completely coated in carbon

Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:26 pm
by 89eliteR
Mystic wrote:tap the cylinder with a rubber mallet from the bottom in an upward motion till it loosens up the gasket has it sealed to the block

the combustion chamber on the cylinder head actually doesnt look THAT bad it could be completely coated in carbon

Thank you good sir. I will give this a whirl and let you know how it goes.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:41 pm
by swimmingfree
how is he calling good sir????? Mystic ill bet he meant Gross and stool you like corn in it??
ssswwwiiimmmmmiingfree
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:20 am
by 89eliteR
MMMMMMMM BBQ Exhaust
Also sliced and diced my clutch cover and stripped the black paint off it. Ended it cutting it with a meat saw, which worked rather well

Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:32 am
by swimmingfree
hay if you did not have naked women dancing around it it's not clean...
we need prof if you did.. lol
your doing it right the first time clean before you find out its full ...
swimmingfree
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:02 am
by 89eliteR
Got some more work done on my day off. Took off the variator with the impact gun. I think im going to order a ruckus one to replace it.
And while I have the variator out of the way i got some more engine cleaning done:
I had some old heat resistant paint that is aluminum is color, so decided to slap a coat on my exhaust and the cooling shroud for the cylinder
Also started painting the panels and the fan cover
I just got a little body work to do on the front panel, and then i'm done painting.
Re: 89 Elite R - my first build
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 1:33 pm
by 89eliteR
So i decided to take a look inside the stock vari, and wow is it ever full of grease! I'm assuming the factory ones are suppose to be greased? I'm not overly concerned, where I am replacing it with a ruckus vari, but still found it strange
is this normal?