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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:00 am
by Jamie_Miles
Be careful, if any gas gets on the Duct Tape it will turn into a gooey mess and be hard to get off your hands.

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:24 pm
by noiseguy
zoom wrote:ok ill try that with the duct tape. when i decarbonized the piston the piston was a little loose i dont no if its normal or not but its not bad but just enough to notice.. and yes the air screw mixture is set right. also will it crank with low compresion and if it is the compression what will i have to do.
Your piston should not be "loose." If it is, check compression. You need a new set if rings and possibly a new piston if so, as well as a hone or bore job on the cylinder. Compression should be above 100 PSI.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:56 pm
by zoom
ok im pretty shure its the compression but i dont feel like puttin the money into it . but do yall no how much it would cost for a piston rings and a honed cylender.. and i was thinkin bout seelin how much could i get..

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:19 pm
by vette76
if its in nice shape you could sell it for around 200. rings will probably cost around 20/25 dollars. dont know how much to hone.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:02 pm
by zoom
how much would the piston be??

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:16 pm
by vette76
i heard like 35-40 dollars.not bad.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:23 pm
by zoom
ok do you no where i could get that stuff.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:48 pm
by vette76
no idea. your local motorcycle dealership or whatever would be able to get it. or mabe even an auto parts place.im not familiar with where you live so i cant really help. try ebay.

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:46 pm
by zoom
well i found the problem ( i think) . i took the head off and found that the exhauast port was clogged up baddly( maybe had an 8th of inch or less). so i declogged tht but when i was tryint o put the head back on i broke the rings. so im gonna half to order that and i guess ill get a head gasket with it. bt how do u get the head on with the rings on i just couldnt do it?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:26 am
by vette76
vrey carefully, they sell a tool that does this.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:13 am
by noiseguy
I think you mean that you're trying to put on the jug over the piston. You can use a large radiator hose clamp (with lots of lube oil) to do this. It does need to be done carefully. The actual tool is called a ring compresser, but you'd need a small-engine one.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:56 am
by Shane4188
You can do it with your hands very carefully.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:50 pm
by zoom
so what i need to do is get a ring compressor to put the rings on the piston . then how do i put the jugg over the pistonb just se alot of lube ?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:30 am
by vette76
no, the ring compresser compresses the rings so the piston fits in the cylender. u still need to put the rings on the piston yourself.

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:22 am
by noiseguy
You may need a ring spreader to put on the rings. The danger is either a) breaking the ring b) scratching up the piston. The installer spreads the rings, the compresser squishes them to fit into the jug.

The manual shows the rings being removed by hand, but not the installation. What exactly went wrong last time?