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Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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I myself let my elite to idle at least 3 minutes before I take off for school in the morning..whether the temperature is 50 degrees Fahrenheit or 40..the colder it is though, the more time I give it to warm up
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if you dont mind me asking were did you get your tack, it seems it would really help me.
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Dac wrote:if you dont mind me asking were did you get your tack, it seems it would really help me.
http://www.kosonorthamerica.com/

My honda dealer was able to get it but you should be able to order it online. The CHT probe kit was separate.
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whoa those are not cheap. only a few of those were cheaper then my bore kit . is there any not 200$ way of finding temperature?
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For a temp guage go to vtcycles.com they were about $87 and why would you need a tach? it has no shift points, which is the only reason a tach is used for :lol: after you blow your first bore kit your temp guage will tell ya when to back off unless you :shock: change the gear ratio
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Bmx, i would love to run your japan dio with the wrong gear ratio with my u.s. version dio and smoke your * :o and keep the tach incase you have shift gears :roll:
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stillspeeding wrote:Bmx, i would love to run your japan dio with the wrong gear ratio with my u.s. version dio and smoke your * :o and keep the tach incase you have shift gears :roll:
Actually the tach was quite useful. As I accelerate I can see what rpm my powerband kicks in and then I can tune my weights and springs to let the bike accelerate in it's powerband constantly. So technically there is shifting to tune. And then I have to retune again everytime I change something, or when parts wear out.
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Post by stillspeeding »

If you can't change the gear ratio expect to blow your bore kit! but you can buy a cheap elite-s 94 & up from the Michigan boys cuz they don't know how much they are worth :lol:
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now is this true or are you full of s***? i know many people who have bore kits on there 93-under elites that work fine. my newest one is still going good.

and 'michigan boys' are not as stupid as you think other wise i would be riding a 94+
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It takes $bucks$ to build & own a full stroker & balls to ride one :D
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i got the balls to ride one. i use to ride a 150cc scooter allot no problem. i know a stroker has tons more power but i think ill be good.
only down side being money. im 'low' (aka OUT) of money at this point. with my low * income im happy to afford my elite.
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its all good man, these things happen. just a lesson that taking time to tune is very important. make sure to run richer next time, check intake system for leaks and use a good filter.
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jeremydde wrote:
stillspeeding wrote:Bmx, i would love to run your japan dio with the wrong gear ratio with my u.s. version dio and smoke your * :o and keep the tach incase you have shift gears :roll:
Actually the tach was quite useful. As I accelerate I can see what rpm my powerband kicks in and then I can tune my weights and springs to let the bike accelerate in it's powerband constantly. So technically there is shifting to tune. And then I have to retune again everytime I change something, or when parts wear out.
correct, I have a koso multi tach that I have used to tune my zip stroker. It was very handy till it stopped working. Even though cvt's are "automatic" they do shift and monitoring at which engine speed they do this at can really help you tune.

my tach/temp gauge:

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is my Uni Pod filter a good filter?
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its always worked great and i oiled it to help the filter out dust and what not.

I love Ventos, i wish i could get one. my friend got a 04 Zip for 400$ from a guy who had 2 of them, the guy wanted 500 for the other one. i went to buy it the next day and it was already sold.
about how fast do your 2 ventos go?
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filter looks fine as long as you upjetted the stock carb, would guess you'd need atleast 85 main but a bigger carb would really help w/ 70kit.

Got the 90cc Zip stroker to do 64.5mph by gps, not fully pushing it. Completely custom intake, setup for acceleration with stock straight cut gears for max torque.

Triton at 70cc and stock upjetted carb, got 69.4mph gps.

Italjet is due for a gps run, and the Elite is sitting at a cool 0mph :lol:
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